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Posted on 02/09/2004 12:58:43 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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LMAO!
To: Maximilian; Catholicguy; NYer; sinkspur; ThomasMore; Tantumergo; ninenot; dsc; Pyro7480; ...
Whatever you position ... this was funny!
ping!
To: Hermann the Cherusker
?? Reference...
To: Hermann the Cherusker
I've seen people take scripture out of context before but THIS "takes the cake!"
To: Hermann the Cherusker
Reads like an ordinary AmChurch homily.
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posted on
02/09/2004 1:19:14 PM PST
by
johnb2004
To: johnb2004
Heck, these people were the ones who could feel sorry for Saddam...well, why not Satan?
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posted on
02/09/2004 1:39:54 PM PST
by
livius
Comment #7 Removed by Moderator
To: AAABEST; Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; Antoninus; apologia_pro_vita_sua; Askel5; ...
I`m not surprised that some of the Council Fathers believed that the souls in Hell, even Satan`s, are not irretrievably damned.
I`m surprised, however, that this was even considered as a preliminary draft of Nostra Aetate even by some mischievous modernist peritus.
Paul VI must have hit the roof when this was presented to him, especially because this particular issue wasn`t debated. Does anyone have any further information on the authenticity or falseness of this document?
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posted on
02/09/2004 2:06:19 PM PST
by
Loyalist
(Tony Clement for Leader: Conservative Party of Canada!)
To: Loyalist
It's a
joke, for heaven's sake.
And a pretty good one, I have to admit.
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posted on
02/09/2004 2:10:30 PM PST
by
Campion
To: livius
Heck, these people were the ones who could feel sorry for Saddam...well, why not Satan? Yeah.. remember that jerk! LOL
I had mixed feelings about the war but could not for the life of me figure how anyone couldn't possibly feel bad about Saddamizer being in captivity and having his teeth checked.
That guy was in dire need of a swirly.
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posted on
02/09/2004 2:20:23 PM PST
by
AAABEST
(<a href="http://www.sspx.org">Traditional Catholicism is Back and Growing</a>)
To: Hermann the Cherusker
LOL. But let's not enjoy the humor too complacently. I wouldn't put it past Cardinal Kasper or some others to release this document. Maybe it's in reserve for "Vatican III."
To: Hermann the Cherusker
There is no connection between the Church and Satan. This is a twist attempt at legal mumo jumbo at best. We are Sons and Daughters of God, angelic in appearance. The angel in heaven or hell are God creation of creatures that serve the Lord purpose and have no relation other than serving God's divine purpose. Which no doubt piss off satan. For satan(no matter how high his office is) is a servant and we are the children that inherit the Kingdom of God.
No matter how satan uses legal mumo jumbo, it all trying to deceive man and steal from man the gift of God, Jesus Christ.
To: Warlord David
This is a twist attempt at legal mumo jumbo at best.This is a parody of a similar document from Vatican II.
To: Loyalist; AAABEST; Campion; Maximilian; sandyeggo; Hermann the Cherusker
'DECLARATION ON THE RELATION OF THE CHURCH TO NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS NOSTRA AETATE'
... PROCLAIMED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI ON OCTOBER 28, 1965
Excerpt:...
'...Religions, however, that are bound up with an advanced culture have struggled to answer the same questions by means of more refined concepts and a more developed language.
Thus in Hinduism, men contemplate the divine mystery and express it through an inexhaustible abundance of myths and through searching philosophical inquiry. They seek freedom from the anguish of our human condition either through ascetical practices or profound meditation or a flight to God with love and trust.
Again, Buddhism, in its various forms, realizes the radical insufficiency of this changeable world; it teaches a way by which men, in a devout and confident spirit, may be able either to acquire the state of perfect liberation, or attain, by their own efforts or through higher help, supreme illumination. Likewise, other religions found everywhere try to counter the restlessness of the human heart, each in its own manner, by proposing "ways," comprising teachings, rules of life, and sacred rites.
The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men.
Indeed, she proclaims, and ever must proclaim Christ "the way, the truth, and the life" (John 14:6), in whom men may find the fullness of religious life, in whom God has reconciled all things to Himself.(4)
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posted on
02/09/2004 3:49:54 PM PST
by
harbingr
(Para #3 Excerpt: 'The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God,...')
To: harbingr
Gee that's comforting. Nice to know everyone in Rome is so friendly to Buddists, Muslims and Hindus.
Never mind traditional worship, let's fly away somewhere or pet buddah's stomach.
Let me try to find it in scripture first so we can do this right though. Flying away can be dangerous (being so high up and all) so I want see what Jesus has to say about it first. I wouldn't want to make the Buddah angry either.
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:05:02 PM PST
by
AAABEST
(<a href="http://www.sspx.org">Traditional Catholicism is Back and Growing</a>)
To: Hermann the Cherusker
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:20:30 PM PST
by
harbingr
(excerpt..'Words of fervent esteem and of reconciliation are reserved in particular for the Moslems')
To: Campion
I spent all this time looking up these references. Well, at least I'll sleep better (at least once my blood pressure goes down). :O)
PS-I wonder how many people just accepted the references? They clearly don't make support the argument made but it sure looked good.
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:57:12 PM PST
by
HarleyD
(READ Your Bible-STUDY to show yourself approved)
To: Campion
"It's a joke, for heaven's sake."
I have seen so much come out of the hierarchy in the past 40 years that I thought couldn't be real but was.
I guess you could fool me with just about anything now-a-days.
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posted on
02/09/2004 5:22:35 PM PST
by
rogator
To: Hermann the Cherusker
"Whatever you position ... this was funny!"
Too funny!!
I was thinking how hilarious that some people were taken in by this and thought that it could be real.
But then it struck me...............
To: Maximilian
Thanks, But i did not even have a clue that it was a parody at all for any document, let a lone the Vatican II.
Just old fashion saying. Thank Again
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