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It got hope, which was the intent.

Dear Mark, Christian hope is ever grounded in faith and trust in God.

Just to bore everyone to death here, the etymology of the English word faith stems from the same Latin root, fides, which carries both meanings. The English word "fiduciary" derives from the same root, for the same reasons.

I have prayed and I have praised and meditated since our last discussion on this thread, and I am so excited to share this with you. Bubbles, betty boop, very tiny bubbles - lots of them rising out of the darkness and disappearing into the Light!

For the Lurkers, this is an impression from worship not doctrine...

Again, there is basis in Scripture:

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans 8:38-39

And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me. - John 12:32

It appears my mention of Romans 8 at post 58, following your mention of Creation at post 57, has caused a bit of a "sidebar" on the subject. Here are the relevant passages for anyone lurking:

For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time [are] not worthy [to be compared] with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected [the same] in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

And not only [they], but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body. For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, [then] do we with patience wait for [it].

Strange and wonderful it is that the creature is already aware of that which has escaped so many men – namely, what Jesus has done for us and what the arrival of the God’s kingdom means. Praise God!!!