30,000 Protestant Denominations?

Calvary Press ^ | 2002 | Eric Svendsen

[conservonator]

LOL! By that definition, the Catholics just knocked themselves out of the picture as well!

Not really, there is only one Catholic Church to deny this is to deny reality.

[drstevej]

***Not really, there is only one Catholic Church to deny this is to deny reality.***

SSPX
Opus Dei

[conservonator]

SSPX Opus Dei

SSPX is in schism, Opus Dei is in communion. You're not making a point as far as I can tell.

[Quester]

Let's say there are only 500 contradictory Protestant denominations. How about only three? All contradicting each other except in their unified hatred/jelousy of the Church's authority, and ALL exactly RIGHT. That's unity and good sense for you.

Protestants are united in belief on the essentials of the gospel message.

Outside of these essentials, we are free to disagree. We have no ultimate dissension among ourselves.

We have anathemized no other believers.

We consider all believers to be part of the body of Christ.

And ... in light of the news of the day, ... no Protestant alive today envies anything Catholic.

[SoothingDave]

Elect me Pope and we can deal with this in years not centuries. We Proddies "take the bull by the horns" and there is lots of "bull" that needs "taking."

But really, think in centuries. It's not a cliche.

If you act strongly and cause a formal schism, how many might become lost? Versus the situation whereby we can reclaim the dioceses that are troubled through attrition and by a re-awakening of orthodoxy?

As Pope, you will be responsible for your actions and must take such things into consideration. Maybe this generation in LA is lost. Do you want to make that permanent?

These are the questions a pope faces.

SD

[SoothingDave]

And ... in light of the news of the day, ... no Protestant alive today envies anything Catholic.

What does that mean?

SD

[conservonator]

Protestants are united in belief on the essentials of the gospel message.

Really?

[Quester]

Protestants are united in belief on the essentials of the gospel message.

Really ?

Can you produce evidence of any Protestant who is not ?

[conservonator]

Post # 17 on the other thread.

[Aquinasfan]

Mahoney is number one on my "Papal To Do List" -- make a statement to the AmChurch. A Mel Gibson financed Chapel on the site of the bulldozed Taj Mahoney with an orthodox Cardinal residing there is my style of change.

Works for me 8-) Actually, removing Mahoney would suffice. Leveling the Taj Mahoney, or selling it to the UN for earth worship, would be the icing on the cake.

[drstevej]

***As Pope, you will be responsible for your actions and must take such things into consideration. Maybe this generation in LA is lost. Do you want to make that permanent?***

***These are the questions a pope faces.***

Removing a heretical Cardinal ought to fall squarely within my job description. This Pope has had 1/4 a century and the "Progress Direction Arrow" is pointing the wrong way.

If the next Pope, should that not be yours truly, continues the approach of this Pope I truly grieve with increased sadness for my orthodox Catholic friends.

Today's Jesuits ain't what they used to be.

[Aquinasfan]

Not at all. No more so than you are to believe every "Catholic" Church and every one of their pastors is "identical in belief and practice".

I'd agree with you. Most self-identifying Catholics are formal or material heretics in one way or another. I don't exempt myself. But we can know whether or not we hold heretical beliefs because the Church has a codified body of doctrine to which Catholics are obligated to assent.

A resource for the scholarly types: Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma

[drstevej]

***A resource for the scholarly types: Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma***

I have a copy of Ott's book, does that make me a schollar?

BTW: It is an excellent resource.

[SoothingDave]

Removing a heretical Cardinal ought to fall squarely within my job description.

Yes, but much like a can of Pringles, once you start it's very difficult to stop. ;-)

SD

[Aquinasfan]

have a copy of Ott's book, does that make me a schollar?

In my book 8-)

[Aquinasfan]

Yes, but much like a can of Pringles, once you start it's very difficult to stop. ;-)

LOL!

[drstevej]

***In my book 8-)***

Is your book available on amazon.com ??? :-)

[Quester]

And ... in light of the news of the day, ... no Protestant alive today envies anything Catholic.

What does that mean?

Simply a truthful response to an outrageous remark.

[SoothingDave]

Simply a truthful response to an outrageous remark.

Is there some news today or are you referring to the scandals?

And I realize that envy is one of the deadly sins, so I am glad that you aren't engaged in it. But is it your position that nothing in Catholicism is enviable?

SD

[Quester]

Is there some news today or are you referring to the scandals?

No new news today, that I'm aware of ...

And I realize that envy is one of the deadly sins, so I am glad that you aren't engaged in it. But is it your position that nothing in Catholicism is enviable?

I believe that we share the faith on a basic level.

I count believing Catholics as my brethren in Christ.

For such, I am immeasurably glad.