Battling Gomorrah

Seattle Catholic ^ | 12 Apr 2004 | Edward G. Lengel

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping - Bork fans should read this.

I love Bork. I love Slouching Towards Gomorrah, and I should read his more recent book.

He came to the same conclusion I came to. The only real solution to the imminent breakdown of society is religious renewal, of enough people that the culture as a whole is influenced.

I don't see it as a sectarian thing either, as moral absolutes are essentially the same in Christianity, Judaism, Islam (not my fave at present, but the Koran is in line with the Bible on moral essentials), Hinduism, and even philosophies such as Buddhism and Taoism.

Many "New Age" supposedly practioners of some of the above (or liberal Protestants) are FINO - followers in name only. They pick and choose what they "like".

I have a good friend, who has been active in defending the family and marriage for a good many years, who went to Taiwan to talk to Buddhist leaders about the dangers of promoting homosexuality. They didn't get it, until he gave them copies of "Heather Has Two Mommies" and "Daddy's Roommate". They were horror-struck and supported his efforts totally.

[NeoCaveman]

Bush's 2000 presidential victory was made possible by a Supreme Court decision on December 12, 2000 -- feast day of Our Lady of Guadalupe, the patroness of the Americas as well as pro-life forces.

This part I knew. I'm reminded that I thought it would take a miracle to prevent Demcorat theft of the election.

Bush's brother, Jeb, governor of Florida, is a deeply Catholic man who was converted by his wife, a woman devoted to Guadalupe.

During the election crisis Jeb’s wife made a pilgrimage to Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico to pray. Our Lady of Guadalupe is the patroness of North and South America and patroness of the unborn. On December 12th, the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, Jeb’s wife prayed for the administration of George W. Bush and consecrated it to Our Lady. In his first official foreign trip, Bush visited Mexico and while there stopped at Our Lady of Guadalupe Basilica.

Wow. That is awesome. This is why we got to get Bush re-elected, he can appoint the Supreme Court Justices that will overturn Roe v. Wade.

[TYVets]

"Bork's embracement of the Catholic Faith provides ample cause for celebration"

Welcome Robert Bork

[Siobhan]

That is an evil way to post, Sinkspur.

Shall we all follow your example and post our assessments of you on this thread and elsewhere "just for the record" without any substantiation as you have done to Askel5?

No, Sinkspur, we won't be doing that because Mr. Robinson has asked us not to do so and has asked us not to drag arguments from thread to thread.

[sinkspur]

Shall we all follow your example and post our assessments of you on this thread and elsewhere "just for the record" without any substantiation as you have done to Askel5?

You've already done it, Siobhan, a month ago.

Askel's continued trashing of George W. Bush and his family WILL NOT go unanswered, especially since she all but blamed 9/11 on him.

If you want to defend her, you just go right ahead.

[Trebics]

"Who's "we". ;)"

Oscar Wilde charcterized the second marriage in those words...

As for the Good Judge, I am happy he responded to Grace properly, his wife's many sins are covered by his conversion, and who are we to cast doubts on their marriage as a regularized marriage is a prerequisite for reception into the faith so it must be proper.

Charity above all!
Benedicamus Domino!

[Siobhan]

If you wish to accuse, then perhaps one should provide the proof. Since you have referred to a post of mine without providing a link to it, leaving an accusation hanging, as it were, I post the link here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1088701/posts?page=196#196

Nonetheless, I will not rehash that particular argument since Mr. Robinson has asked that we not do that on another thread. If you wish to reëngage that thread, feel free to do so.

As far as what you are posting with regard to Askel5, I am confident in your ability to justify the grinding of your axe. Unless and until you start posting links and copying from other threads to back up your assault, what you are doing is dead wrong. To vigorously debate Askel5 upon a point of contention is an occasion of celebration, to flex one's faculties, but to grouse and muster calumnies in lieu of debate on FR is merely pitiful.

[.45MAN]

ping

[Desdemona]

There's a rumor circulating among those with Republican political ties that George W. Bush has taken strides towards conversion but confided to his brother Jeb (a Catholic) that he would not do so while in office due to the political implications.

I have heard this, but I am not sure where. I don't know if it was in writing or not.

[Desdemona]

If there is one thing that I find wholly embarrassing as well as utterly repugnant, it's the way the GOP -- particularly the Bush family -- plays Catholics for fools.

I don't think they do. At this point, Catholics who blind themselves are played for fools and no one else.

[EdReform]

Bump

Culture of Vice

[cpforlife.org]

Judge Robert Bork BUMP

Roe v Wade may have been overturned in 1992 if Bork had got the confirmation. INjustice Kennedy was Reagan's second pick.

See:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1090533/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1093519/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1090640/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1090363/posts

[cpforlife.org]

sinkspur,

I’ve been Freeping since 2002 and lurked from 1998. Post # 9 is the most disgraceful thing I think I’ve seen on FR.

Post # 9, IMO is approaching criminal libel and IS grievously sinful. You make serious allegations “Just for the record” with NOTHING to back up your claims. You are NOTHING, if not consistent.

Since, as you say, there are a large number of new users on this website, I will say that Askel is a great American.

Askel is one of the reasons I got hooked of FR. She is a great defender of the Faith and of traditional Christian Family values. She also has posted some of the most important subjects regarding the Culture of Life v the CULTure of death. She has a track record for intellectually consistent and often challenging posting, and is always faithful to Mother Church. One need only read a few of her posts to see what a faithful daughter she is to our Lord and Lady.

On the other hand, Sinkspur—newbies can read your hate filled libelous post # 9 and decide if you are on the opposite end of the spectrum. Newbies can check your comments page to determine if #9 is an accurate representation of who you are. I believe it is.

IMO—what is most disheartening is that you always “for the record” present yourself as a Deacon in the Catholic Church, with never any proof. People can read what the CCC teaches about the diaconate in light of your uncharitable posts and decide if you being a “Deacon” is a good or bad thing.

You owe Askel a major apology. I propose that you should also apologize to the entire Forum and then permanently cancel your Internet subscription and remove/destroy your modem for good measure.

1570 Deacons share in Christ's mission and grace in a special way. The sacrament of Holy Orders marks them with an imprint ("character") which cannot be removed and which configures them to Christ, who made himself the "deacon" or servant of all. Among other tasks, it is the task of deacons to assist the bishop and priests in the celebration of the divine mysteries, above all the Eucharist, in the distribution of Holy Communion, in assisting at and blessing marriages, in the proclamation of the Gospel and preaching, in presiding over funerals, and in dedicating themselves to the various ministries of charity.

1569 "At a lower level of the hierarchy are to be found deacons, who receive the imposition of hands 'not unto the priesthood, but unto the ministry."' At an ordination to the diaconate only the bishop lays hands on the candidate, thus signifying the deacon's special attachment to the bishop in the tasks of his "diakonia."