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Third Gnostic Crisis
UPI via Cyberbretheren ^ | March 30 | Uwe Siemon-Netto

Posted on 04/17/2004 10:12:02 PM PDT by sauerkraut

Series schism 2: Third Gnostic Crisis

By Uwe Siemon-Netto UPI Religious Affairs Editor

WASHINGTON, March 30 (UPI) -- Editor's note: This is part two of the UPI series on the new schism running horizontally through most Christian denominations. In this installment, theologians argue that the rift constitutes the Church's Third Gnostic Crisis, which is as menacing as were its predecessors 1,000 and almost 2,000 years ago.

When Don Westblade, a religion professor, tries to explain the Gnostic crisis of the early church to his students at Hillsdale College in Michigan he points to a stunning parallel in modern times.

The moral dilemma plaguing most denominations in modernity and postmodernity, he says, is rooted in the same heresy that almost destroyed the Church in its infancy. Westblade describes it as "a perspective on God that divides deities into two levels."

Gnostics came into prominence within Christianity in the second century. They distinguished between the Demiurge, or creator God, and the supreme remote and unknowable Divine Being.

In the 12th and 13th centuries, a related theology of the Cathars in Germany and France was perceived as a major threat to Catholicism and therefore brutally suppressed.

Some of the early Gnostic sects, such as the Nicolaitans and the Ophites, did not bother much with the Demiurge, whom they thought was in charge of matter. Since matter was sharply opposed to spirit, the property of the higher deity, bodily actions were indifferent. Therefore licentiousness was wholly admissible.

As Westblade sees it, contemporary Gnosticism, including Jungian psychology, feminism and the homosexual lobby within the church, operate along these lines. "They don't like to associate with the Demiurge. They like to be with the God who is overhead."

More concretely, while Scripture says that homosexual practices are an abomination, an "allegedly more enlightened view puts us in touch with the true God and not with the 'patriarchal and bigoted position' of the Demiurge," according to Westblade.

To William H. Lazareth, a former Lutheran bishop of New York and currently professor at Cathage College in Kenosha, Wis., this "Gnostic apparition of hedonism" is of course "an ontological absurdity."

The Rev. Gerald E. Murray, a canon lawyer and parish priest in New York, believes that the moral crisis in the Roman Catholic Church in the United States is very much part of this neo-Gnostic phenomenon.

The discovery that 4,292 deacons and priests were implicated in 10,667 cases of abuse over the last 50 years suggests to him that "people have taken to objectify their bodies, using their bodies as entities separate from themselves. Their rationale is, 'My intentions are not evil, therefore I can do what I want.'"

Christian anthropology holds of course that "body and soul are a composite making up a whole person who will have to act in accord with God's law," says Murray. But this anthropology is as embattled in the Church's current Gnostic Crisis as it was 1,000 and 2,000 years ago. Don Westblade even goes as far as to say, that while Gnosticism appears to be peaking once again, "Gnostics have been with us throughout church history."

Churchgoers, he believes, "often take a more Platonic than Biblical view of things." With Plato, and like the Gnostics, they think that the body doesn't matter much and can be dealt with at will, even though they say every Sunday in church when they speak the Apostles' or Nicene Creeds that it will be resurrected.

In other words, differences over the importance of the body are the wedge that drives most denominations apart -- with the result that traditional Roman Catholics have more in common with Southern Baptists than with their Gnostic brethren and evangelical Anglicans are closer to the Eastern Orthodox than to their "revisionist" coreligionists.

The moral issues of the Gnostic crises today as almost 2,000 years ago contain a fascinating theological twist, however. In the very first chapter of his Epistle to the Romans, the apostle Paul reveals that the abuse of the body is the consequence of God's wrath against idolatrous mankind.

"Therefore God gave them over into the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another," writes Paul (Romans 1:24). The exegetes of the early church commented this in terms sounding strangely familiar to postmodern ears.

"Paul tells us... that a woman should lust after another woman because God was angry at the human race because of its idolatry," wrote the mysterious 4th-century exegete Ambrosiaster, whose real identity remains unknown.

"When God abandons a person to his own devices, then everything is turned upside down," mused St. John Chrysostom (ca. 347-407 A.D.). "Men with frenzied lusts rush against men. Things are done which cannot even give pleasure to those who do them," remarked St. Cyprian, bishop of Carthage (died 258 A.D.).

And Origen (185-254 A.D.), the famed though controversial Alexandrian Bible scholar, preached on the Epistle to the Romans in words that send chills down the spine of those deploring today's gender war:

"The normal desire for sexual intercourse united the sexes to one another. But by taking this away and turning it into something else, the devil divided the sexes from each other and forced what was one to become two, in opposition to the law of God ... The devil was bent on destroying the human race, not only by preventing them from copulating lawfully but by stirring them up to war against each other."

Origen concluded from this: "Paul goes straight to the source of sexual evil: ungodliness which comes from twisted teaching and lawlessness which is its reward."

Twisted teaching, traditionalist theologians such as Thomas C. Oden of the United Methodist say, has contributed greatly to the current crisis in the church. Worse still, it has lethal results.

"You are literally killing us," archbishop Peter Akinola, primate of the 18 million-member Anglican Church of Nigeria chided his North American Episcopalians, who have succumbed to the Gnostic temptation.

What he meant was this: When photographs are flashed around the world of a homosexual bishop's consecration with his male lover holding his miter; when churches, such as the Episcopal diocese of Washington, develop liturgies for same-sex weddings, then Muslim extremists feel confirmed in their view that Christianity is moribund.

Hence their conclusion: Why not give Christianity a coup de grace and slaughter its faithful wherever they are?


TOPICS: Apologetics; History; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: gnostic; gnosticism; schism

1 posted on 04/17/2004 10:12:03 PM PDT by sauerkraut
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To: sauerkraut
INTREP - GNOSTICISM today
2 posted on 04/17/2004 10:24:35 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: sauerkraut
Of course Gnosticism had both an extreme ascetic side and a hedonistic side, both based on the proposition that spirit is better than matter. The modern heresies, however, are not in any way ascetic or spiritual, but materialistic hedonism pure and simple, and not because matter doesnt' matter, as Gnostics and Cathars thought, but because material pleasure is the most important value to modernists.
3 posted on 04/17/2004 11:09:28 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: sauerkraut
"In other words, differences over the importance of the body are the wedge that drives most denominations apart -- with the result that traditional Roman Catholics have more in common with Southern Baptists than with their Gnostic brethren and evangelical Anglicans are closer to the Eastern Orthodox than to their "revisionist" coreligionists."

Unfortunately this truth has not sunk into the minds of many of the traditionals who would rather defend their doctrine then defend the church.

4 posted on 04/18/2004 5:48:48 AM PDT by HarleyD (For strong is he who carries out God's word. (Joel 2:11))
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To: HarleyD
Got that straight. As a baptistic, covenental Calvinist, I have a whole lot more in common with a Thomastic traditional Catholic than I do with a wishy-washy modernist. The Catholic and I would probably talk past each other on works being a part of salvation, but ultimately, we're a heck of a lot closer to each other than the modernists. The traditional Catholic and I would not agree on the role of Tradition, but ultimately, we'd both appeal back to something other than our feelings and values -- something concrete. The traditionalist Catholic and I would certainly not agree on the veneration of saints, and particularly of Mary, but we'd certainly agree that we are not gods.

My American Church History professor shared some scary statistics from the mainline denominations on Thursday. This poll is about 30 yrs old. At a National Council of Churches convention in Miami Beach, 33% of the pastors there did not believe with any certainty in the reality of God; 66% did not believe with any certainty in the deity of Christ. 3% didn't believe in life after death, and 66% of NCC pastors didnt believe in miracles. Mainline Protestant Christianity has become a country-club of Saduceees.

5 posted on 04/18/2004 12:43:19 PM PDT by jude24
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To: jude24
Your post is a breath of fresh air in a forum that often sees faithful Catholics and faithful Protestants attacking each other. We need to wake up and realize that if we want to defend our faith in a God of Truth then we have to work together to fight this rot that has grown within the Christian community.
6 posted on 04/18/2004 2:59:52 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (06/07/04 - 1000 days since 09/11/01)
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To: jude24
I wish that my Catholic bretheren had the modesty and reverance that my Protestant bretheren have.

I go to Church on Sunday and wear a tie, jacket and look presentable. I see many men, especially the younger ones with jeans and tee shirts.

The girls and woman for the most part are worse with their mini-skits and belly buttons.

It is good to see the men at the Protestant Church wearing suits and it is good to see tne woman wearing dresses and skirts and in many cases hats.

God Bless them in their adoration and respect for Christ.
7 posted on 04/18/2004 4:56:20 PM PDT by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed. Pray for our own souls to receive the grace of a happy)
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To: franky
I've seen people dressed properly for Mass in two places, I think. At the Visitation Monastery in Frederick MD, and at an SSPX Mass in Tokyo.
8 posted on 04/18/2004 5:08:34 PM PDT by dsc
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To: HarleyD
"Unfortunately this truth has not sunk into the minds of many of the traditionals who would rather defend their doctrine then defend the church."

Eh?
9 posted on 04/18/2004 5:09:24 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Straight Vermonter; jude24
Your post is a breath of fresh air in a forum that often sees faithful Catholics and faithful Protestants attacking each other. We need to wake up and realize that if we want to defend our faith in a God of Truth then we have to work together to fight this rot that has grown within the Christian community.

A big Amen to that!

10 posted on 04/18/2004 5:28:17 PM PDT by ladyinred (Kerry has more flip flops than Waikiki Beach)
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To: dsc; jude24
I think jude24 summed it up nicely in post 5.
11 posted on 04/18/2004 5:31:47 PM PDT by HarleyD (For strong is he who carries out God's word. (Joel 2:11))
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To: HarleyD
I see his point, but I don't see yours.
12 posted on 04/18/2004 6:58:25 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Straight Vermonter
Your post is a breath of fresh air in a forum that often sees faithful Catholics and faithful Protestants attacking each other.

I think we need to remember that our disagreements are intranicene. Our disagreements are within a framework that we can all agree to the basic tenants of Christianity, as expressed in the ancient creeds.

At the same time, it does us no good to deny that there are differnces between us. A covenantal, baptistic Calvinist and a Thomastic Roman Catholic will disagree on several key points. Denial of this fact will lead to a false unity of compromise. Acceptance of this fact can lead to a congenial co-existence where we are free to dialogue about our differences in a non-threatening manner, finding the common ground that is actually there.

One of the few benefits to come from the abomination of Roe v. Wade is it, for the first time, brought together Christians from across the spectrum so that they could see, "hey, this guy might be Catholic, but he's a real Christian."

13 posted on 04/18/2004 6:59:14 PM PDT by jude24
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To: jude24
I think we need to remember that our disagreements are intranicene.

Intra-Nicene. LOL!! Yes, indeed.

Beautiful pun on "internecine". A real gem, nicely set. My compliments!! :-)

14 posted on 04/18/2004 8:32:38 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; jude24
That is good.
15 posted on 04/18/2004 8:35:20 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Pun? Pun?

I must confess, I deliberately chose the phrase, not as a pun, but because that's the etymological root of the phrase.

16 posted on 04/18/2004 8:35:39 PM PDT by jude24
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Incidentally, I think FR is the only place I could use a word like that and have someone pick up the full meaning of the phrase. I wish that the Church was more like that.
17 posted on 04/18/2004 8:38:34 PM PDT by jude24
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Pun? Pun? I must confess, I deliberately chose the phrase, not as a pun, but because that's the etymological root of the phrase.

No way. "Internecine" is from the Latin.

"Intranicene" is therefore a Pun, and a real beaut at that.

18 posted on 04/18/2004 9:06:44 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
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