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To: ksen
Doesn't the Bible speak of "the sin against the Holy Spirit" which can not be remitted?

SD

4 posted on 04/21/2004 6:58:08 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Is that a "can not", or a "will not" statement, SD?
6 posted on 04/21/2004 7:00:48 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: SoothingDave
Doesn't the Bible speak of "the sin against the Holy Spirit" which can not be remitted?

No, it speaks of "the sin against the Holy Spirit" which will not be remitted. Big difference.

7 posted on 04/21/2004 7:04:29 AM PDT by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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To: SoothingDave
Murder also is viewed as an unforgivable sin. I would substitute "insufficient" with "not intended for" the redemption of those who shed innocent blood....
24 posted on 04/21/2004 11:50:14 AM PDT by tracer
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To: SoothingDave
Very few of any of us here on Earth have sufficient knowledge to be capable of committing "the sin against the Holy Spirit".....
25 posted on 04/21/2004 11:53:10 AM PDT by tracer
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To: SoothingDave
True, some people deny His existence and/or curse His existence to such an extent and duration that He leaves them to their own consequences eternally.

If one persistently demonstrates a free will determination to be totally against and free of Holy Spirit's influence, what is Holy Spirit to do consistent with free will?

If Holy Spirit is not bothering to convict one of sin any further, what hope would one have?
86 posted on 04/22/2004 10:20:54 AM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: SoothingDave
But my readings and associations have left me convinced that the Holy Spirit blaspheming unforgivable sin is not what this Mormon doctrine has been routinely used for.

Rather, it's been talked about and used more as a CONTROL MECHANISM.

Most cults are heavily into control.

This is just an extreme example.
87 posted on 04/22/2004 10:22:30 AM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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