[ultima ratio]

Martin Luther--you mean the patron saint of Novus Ordo? He also threw out the Offertory for starters and loathed the notion of a sacrificial liturgy. No wonder the Novus Ordo bishops hate Trent!

[gbcdoj]

He also threw out the Offertory for starters and loathed the notion of a sacrificial liturgy. No wonder the Novus Ordo bishops hate Trent!

Wherefore, O Lord, mindful of the blessed Passion of the same Christ Thy Son, our Lord, and likewise mindful of His resurrection from the nether realm of the dead, but also His glorious ascension into the heavens, we Your servants but also Your holy people, offer up unto Your beautiful majesty from Your own gifts and grants, the sacrificial victim which is pure, the holy victim, the victim stainless, the holy Bread of life everlasting, and the Chalice of eternal salvation. (Novus Ordo Missae, Eucharistic Prayer I)

[TradicalRC]

Martin Luther--you mean the patron saint of Novus Ordo? He also threw out the Offertory for starters and loathed the notion of a sacrificial liturgy. No wonder the Novus Ordo bishops hate Trent!

We sing his hymns in church now, don't we? Where are those authentic Catholic hymns of the pre-conciliar Church?