Answer: It is true that c.912 does say, “Any baptized person who is not forbidden by law may and must be admitted to Holy Communion.” However, c.912 commentary further explains: “unless the existence of some impediment is evidence in the external forum of c.915.” [xv]
Canon 915 states: “Those upon whom the penalty of excommunication or interdict has been imposed or declared, and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin are forbidden by law from receiving Holy Communion.”
It is dishonest to use c.912 to justify permitting grave manifest, obstinate, persistent sinners to the Eucharist. It is a mockery of the faith and belies ones identity as a Catholic believer.
Also note that this thread, so crucial in this POLITICAL campaign, and thus NEWSworthy, not strictly religious in nature, has been exiled to the Religion forum ghetto. Yet remember the anti-Catholic, anti-pope vanity thread that remained on the News forum for a day?
This thread only lasted on the News forum about 48 seconds before the censors here banished it to the Ghetto.
Institutionalized Free Republic anti-Catholic bigotry, as usual.
I rest my case.
1 Cr 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink [this] cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
1Cr 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of [that] bread, and drink of [that] cup.
1Cr 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
1Cr 11:30 For this cause many [are] weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
1Cr 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
1Cr 11:32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
"unworthily" means to be in a state of unconfessed sin...and advocating the murder of unborn children and the "marriage" of homosexuals is clearly living in a state of unconfessed sin.
Please ping your lists for a clear explanation of the Catholic Church's stance on denial of sacraments to those homosexuals who are 'persistent' sinners.
Canon Law n.915 mandates the denial of Communion to all “manifest, obstinate, persistent sinners,” including but not exclusive to politicians. If a Catholic is a ‘manifest’ sinner, that means he is ‘known,’ or ‘public.’
Please ping your pro-life lists for a clear understanding of how the Catholic Church distinguishes between public vs private sinners.
Excellent post! Clearly articulated and documented. Thanks, Polycarp, for posting this thread.
Homosexual Agenda Ping - A clear explanation of the Catholic position on homosexuals or those promoting homosexuality (as well as other evils such as abortion) and receiving communion.
Good for Catholics to read as well as those interested in the politics of the leftists using their "religion" as a tool to promote evil. What with all these Democrats who are supposedly Catholic, and at the same time minions of the "gay" activists, and berating the bishops who are doing nothing more than upholding morality as taught by God.*
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*In every monotheist religion in the world, and then some.
I 'smell' an escape route for Kerry!
Here is this from the Didache circa A.D. 80: [xxiii]
“You shall not kill by abortion the fruit of the womb and you shall not murder the infant already born.”
Could anything be clearer!!! AD80!
In #3 in the article, it sounds like you can partake in the Eucharist if you are sinning and only your priest knows about it.
This doesn't make sense to me. Why wouldn't the priest be obligated to deny the Eucharist to someone if he knew they were sinning. It just makes it sound like what people think is more important then whether or not I'm sinning.
Does that make sense? Can you set me straight?
Here is something I would like an authoritative answer on. Coming out of the 60's free love era, I never would have considered oral sex to be "sodomy". I would like to know the official RC definition of "sodomy". Is oral and/or anal sex between a husband and wife approved? Or, is it only defined as "sodomy" if it is between unmarried heterosexuals or people of the same sex?
It is obvious that if oral and/or anal sex between a married couple is "sodomy" - well, then a lot of married people receiving communion should be denied.
This whole blow up over the denial of communion to apostate politicians kind of confuses me. Maybe I grew up in a time warp, but I can't honestly understand why ANYONE would think they could vote for infanticide and remain in good standing with any Christian church.
Sadly, as I have often said, the struggles on the far side of the Rhine often mirror those on the Tiber. The Lutheran churches are fighting their own war over the same issues. May the Lord be with us.
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Hmmm....3 pages, double sided, under the windshield wiper of a couple hundred cars in the parish parking lots, where Priests don't quite appreciate the facts presented here.
I'm pretty motivated after a Priest's open offer to discuss these issue's, with all who were interested, was met with "I don't want to get into a debate on this. I've got the bigger picture."