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To: ultima ratio; ninenot; GirlShortstop
Good. Stay out. Remain anathema. Stop making believe you are Catholic when you reject the pope and the papacy. As you well know, your masquerade as though you were Catholic is merely the platform for you to launch ineffective missiles at His Holiness.

The quality of a man (JP II) or of an institution (the Roman Catholic Church) can be judged by the nature of his and its enemies. I feel sure that JP II and the RCC will always enjoy the good reputation that arises from the hatred launched at both by the nasty little schism of self-important excommunicated and dead Marcel and his remarkable cult of self-deluded trick ponies.

155 posted on 09/21/2004 7:43:00 AM PDT by BlackElk ( Illicit consecrations of rebel bishops are grand theft ecclesiastical)
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To: BlackElk

I attend Society masses. Do you wish to impugn that I "reject the pope and the papacy"? Do you wish to substantiate that argument? Do you still not realize what the sin of rash judgment is and how it can be mortal given a grave matter such as whether or not one is excommunicated from the Catholic Church?


159 posted on 09/21/2004 7:53:43 AM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: BlackElk

Your point that because the Pope enjoys a good reputation this has something to do with what we're discussing, is so much blather. So is the idea that since a man is known by his enemies, SSPX must be evil, composed of miserable wretches who exist to launch hatred and invective against the Pope. In fact, they do just the opposite and pray for him daily. If there's any invective and hatred being launched, it is by the people like yourself, not by traditionalists. But it is not hateful nor indulging in invective to point out that this Pope acts in ways that are clearly heterodox. That is simply a fact--something you have a tough time admitting. Just as you cannot admit to yourself that the corruption and apostasy in the Church is widespread and attributable primarily to the man at the top. You want to blame everybody else--except the authority most in charge.


231 posted on 09/21/2004 11:47:02 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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