PROPHETIC SIGNS THAT WE ARE IN THE END TIMES [A good summary of SOME key evidences--QX]

CONTENDER MINISTRIES ^ | 11 JUL 2004 | JENNIFER RAST

[Gamecock]

preventing the discussion the thread the thread was set-up for

Isn't discussion a two way street? Can't people disagree? Or are you the thread Nazi, willing to burn the posts of those who don't agree with you?

[aruanan]

PROPHETIC SIGNS THAT WE ARE IN THE END TIMES

The end times began with the birth of Jesus.

[Safrguns]

They ought to be exposed for what they are.

Wrong... their teachings should be. God has a firm grasp on dealing with the individual, and needs no help from us.

Well, mine doesn't. Does that make you more spiritual than me, or me more spiritual than you?

This question only illustrates your error.
I don't consider myself very 'spiritual' at all.
I have a LONG way to go, and as such, I rely more upon all different members of the Body. Not just one.

[Alex Murphy]

Or are you the thread Nazi, willing to burn the posts of those who don't agree with you?

Just make your post and get out, Gamecock. Don't mess with the posting procedure. It’s very important not to embellish on your post. No extraneous comments. No questions. No compliments. Quix demands perfection from himself, from his thread. How can he tolerate any less from the posters?

[BureaucratusMaximus]

So you think as Christian you walk around with your head in the sand regarding fullfillment of any prophecy because Jesus warns that no one knows of his return?

I don't know about that one. I would tend to believe that God would have his people live a life and exhibit Christlike behavior to others as if this day were your last. The end will come when the end will come...and God will then judge us. Something can be said of the wasted time and energy (not to mention pushing people away from the faith) that some Christians exhibit in pushing endtimes "doctrine" on some people...especially when that "doctrine" was "interpreted" by John Darby in the 1800's to his fame and profit. I'm pretty weary of any so-called minister of the faith (i.e. LaHaye, Vam Impe ministries, Benny Hinn, Hagee ministries; to name a few) that use and twist the Word of God for profit. They may have had good intentions, but I believe many have been sucked into these kind of distractions and personal interpretations of scripture that turn out to be detrimental to ones walk with God.

[topcat54]

Wrong... their teachings should be. God has a firm grasp on dealing with the individual, and needs no help from us.

"For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them." (Acts 20:29,30)

Seems you must deal with both the false teachings and the false teachers.

You wrote, While my theology on certain doctrins may not agree with other's, my spirit DOES witness to the authenticity of many of these visions/words of knowledge/etc.

Now you say:

This question only illustrates your error.
I don't consider myself very 'spiritual' at all.

If you don't consider yourself very spiritual, how can your spirit "witness to the authenticity" of this alleged visions, etc?

[Safrguns]

'very' is a relative term.
You are the one who implied that I was engaged in a pissing contest.
Apparently, YOU are the one who continues to judge, whereas I have defended both you AND Quix as members of the Body of Christ.
As to your scripture reference, what part of '...sparing not the flock' do you not understand?

[Quix]

Will check it out. It's been a long time since I checked into the Maitraya idiocy.

THX.

[Quix]

I'm sick of the hostile folks who disagree

so successfully sabotaging thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread

with absolute impunity

year after year after year after year after year

as their smug, self-righteous, pharisaical 'God-ordained-in-their-eyes' duty regardless of how UNBiblical and illogical their agruments are

. . .

to the point that those of us who'd like to discuss the issues fairmindedly in relative peace are reduced to the 1-3 of us who have sufficiently thick asbestos suits and enough ornery steadfastness to more or less put up with the

knee-JERK shredding hostility of the naysayers.

It's persistently exasperating and infuriating.

There's more than 1,000 views of this thread as short as it is. There's clearly a lot of interest scared away by the naysying hostile folks.

HOWEVER, THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS--FREEPMAIL ME. I FIGURE, WE COULD CARRY ON A QUIET, REASONABLE DISCUSSION IN FREEPMAIL. Anyone who got too obnoxious would just be left off the succeeding FREEPMAIL ADDRESS LIST.

I don't know of any other way to manage it given all the givens.

It's clear that the hostile naysaying thread nazi's will never relinquish their "RIGHTS" to hijack threads and sabotage reasonable discussion of topics they view as heresy regardless of how heretical THEIR notions are.

[Quix]

I don't know that I demand perfection. I may earnestly endeavor to relate hereon as I'd prefer to be related to AS MUCH AS LIES WITHIN me in KJV terms.

I even prefer to relate in loving tolerance and avoid insult etc.

ROUTINELY the other side gets so obnoxiously, smugly, self-righteously stubborn and relentlessly destructive to the discussion, I 'lose it' vis a vis my preferences and values. I'm not proud of that and am sorry and repentant for that. But I'm not yet purified through sufficient refiner's fires that it's a 00.000000000000000% problem.

I think it's all the more exasperating because there appears to be no solution. Ignoring them doesn't work. They are relentless regardless of how much one ignores them and regardless of how long one ignores them. They are persistently scanning for any opportunity to come back to the thread and be maximally destructive so that no one with an opposing view has sufficient courage or bother to deal with them.

They probably smugly notch their Bibles for such 'successes' for 'the faith.' Gag me with a very big spoon.

I'm sick of it--fed up with it. Furious about it. May they reap many ocean tankers full of what they have dished out.
May all the threads they inintiate bite the dust early with only very uncomfortable mirrors their only consolation.

Sigh.

[Quix]

Your research is flawed.

Such doctrines have been reliably traced back to the first century church.

You can choose to believe the hogwash of the naysayers if you wish, of course.

[Quix]

bye

[GLENNS]

It's clear that the hostile naysaying thread nazi's will never relinquish their "RIGHTS" to hijack threads and sabotage reasonable discussion of topics they view as heresy regardless of how heretical THEIR notions are.

LOL! I love how you talk out of both sides of your mouth.

Whew!(raised eyebrows)

[Quix]

There's probably a very lonely duck somewhere that you could chase for exercise.

[topcat54]

You were that started this discussion by offering such insights as:

It is increasingly obvious that the time of our Lord's coming is drawing near.

People who make such statements ought to breakout the asbestos underwear. It's only "increasingly obvious" to folks who hold to a certain interpretive approach to the scripture, namely futurist dispensationalism.

They've been crying wolf for decades now, bringing ridicule on the name of our Lord with their wild speculation about everything from barcode scanners and the mark of the beast to Cobra helicopters as the locusts of Revelation.

Jesus will return when He is good and ready. He promised to do so almost 2000 years ago.

It's time Christians in the 21st century stopped being so egocentric, believing every little prophetic jot and tittle points to 2004, and started doing what Christ called us to do, namely discipling the nation.

Face it, He's not going to telegraph the timing to you or me or the folks at TBN.

[topcat54]

after thread after thread after thread after ...

"You forgot a Hungadunga ..."

[Quix]

bye

[Quix]

bye

[Alex Murphy]

...obnoxiously, smugly, self-righteously stubborn and relentlessly destructive to the discussion...
...relentless regardless of how much one ignores them and regardless of how long one ignores them...
...persistently scanning for any opportunity to come back to the thread and be maximally destructive so that no one with an opposing view has sufficient courage or bother to deal with them...
...smugly notch their Bibles for such 'successes' for 'the faith.'...

May they reap many ocean tankers full of what they have dished out. May all the threads they inintiate bite the dust early with only very uncomfortable mirrors their only consolation.

I presume you are directing this at me (albeit in the third person), since you posted this solely to me?

Soup, please. Gespacho. Here's my $2.50.

[Quix]

Actually, I was ranting to all and sundry.

That was an equal opportunity rant not limited to any particular individual.

Don't know that I even limited it to any individual focus in my own mind.