[sionnsar]

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[Lee N. Field]

There are, however, a few things to remember. The Mayflower was loaded with more beer, gin, and rum than water. One of the first buildings at Harvard was a brewery. The drinking of alcohol is most agreeable to the celebration of Thanksgiving and it is flatly un-American to do otherwise. Also, it has been found that cranberry sauce, turkey, mashed potatoes, and pumpkin pie had no place in the original and puritanical Thanksgiving feast - so knock yourself out! But, remember, no buckle-hats!

Got any references for that? :-)

My son wanted me to get "adult beverages" for thanksgiving, but my wife nixed that idea. This AnarchoCalvinist Puritan sympathizer thinks that sounds like a fun way to celebrate thanksgiving. (Good beer, not the stuff they make out of fish heads. . .)

[Unam Sanctam]

That's PILGRIMS south of Boston who started Thanksgiving. We Puritans are in Boston and points north!

[maine-iac7]

I could refute lots of your stuff here - but wont bother - wouldn't want to confuse you with facts but gotta straighten out this

Also, it has been found that cranberry sauce, turkey... had no place in the original and puritanical Thanksgiving feast .

One of my 7th great great grandfather's was there on the occasion of the first harvest festivities - 3 days of it - for the giving of thanks. He wrote a journal for his descendants and he listed many of the foods they had for the first Thanksgiving. I wont list them all - but there was roast duck roast goose, and other wild "fowle", cod, bass and other fish, clams and other shellfish, venison, white bread, corn bread, white and red wine made from local wild grapes, berries and many wild "turkies."

Now the area around Plymouth is rich in cranberry bogs - so I don't think you can empirically claim they did NOT have cranberries. And as for the "turkies" - I'll take his word for it - he was there. Were you?

As to the rum, etc - in those days, in England, if you drank water, you were like to die for England was so polluted at the time that it was only safe to drink ale, beer, etc.. It was the rule of the day.

After a bit in the new world, they discovered the water was safe = and they wrote home to remark at it so being - clear and sweet.

[topcat54]

Hey, I thought Puritans were just Anglicans without the Catholic puffery.

[AlbionGirl]

This was cute. I liked this part, especially the part in bold:

All images of Puritanism must be excluded, including buckle-hats, blunderbusses, buckle-shoes, as well as all pewter.