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To: Unam Sanctam
As a theoretical ideal, a confessional state in which the state truly did not interfere with the doctrine of the faith and in which the rights of individuals not to be coerced on matters of conscience would be best. Such a thing is not practical under modern conditions, given the left-wing currents of thought widespread in society,

Correct, so myself and the other monarchists here are trying to fight those currents - including its most widespread symptom - egalitarian democracy. But you want to classify us as leftists - completely bizarre. I have been called many things in my life, but never a freakin' liberal LOL (in less they meant a "classic liberal", i used to be one of those).

88 posted on 12/12/2004 6:20:28 PM PST by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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To: kjvail

I don't see democratic rights as evils, but as goods. They promote freedoms. I see nothing wrong as a matter of my Catholic faith in seeing value in popular government and human rights protections. An autocratic monarchy would not allow the voters to throw the bastards out if there is something seriously wrong, which does sometimes providentially happen in a democracy. A constitutional monarchy is of course a very different story, and not objectionable if it is consistent with a democratic regime and protection of human rights. I would concentrate on specific evils, like abortion. To jettison the entire US Constitution just because of specific evils would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and is the wrong diagnosis for the cause, in my opinion. And in any event, the deposit of faith does not require a specific form of government, and the Catholic Church can and has coexisted with a number of differing forms of governments down through the centuries. Christ himself acknowledged the separate spheres of Church and state by the rendering to Caesar and God statement.


90 posted on 12/12/2004 6:27:03 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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