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Blessing our oneness
Archdiocese of San Francisco ^ | January 2005

Posted on 01/12/2005 7:03:19 PM PST by AskStPhilomena

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To: murphE; te lucis; vox_freedom

I feel a sudden need to put on liturgical dancewear and flutter in gauze under a moonlit sky.

:-D


101 posted on 05/12/2005 12:14:59 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; te lucis; vox_freedom
I feel a sudden need to put on liturgical dancewear and flutter in gauze under a moonlit sky.

When the moon is in the 7th house, and jupiter aligns with mars...

102 posted on 05/12/2005 12:59:03 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE
When the moon is in the 7th house, and jupiter aligns...

Marilyn McCoo and the 5th Dimension right? Or would it be the 5th Sunday in Aquarius Time?

103 posted on 05/12/2005 8:38:27 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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To: AAABEST; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; annalex; Annie03; Antoninus; ...

If you follow the link from the thread, for this New Age nonsense "prayer" from Levada's website for the Diocese of San Francisco, you will note that they changed the prayer to that of the Prayer of Saint Francis, but fogot to completely cover their tracks by failing to rename the link itself:

http://www.sfarchdiocese.org/oneness-english.html

What a said day in the early pontificate of a man in whom many of us placed great hopes.


104 posted on 05/13/2005 3:52:46 PM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel (Sometimes "Defending the Faith" means you have to be willing to get your hands dirty...)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
'fogot'

Freudian slip? Make that "FORgot."

105 posted on 05/13/2005 3:54:21 PM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel (Sometimes "Defending the Faith" means you have to be willing to get your hands dirty...)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

I'm just thinking of "the Most Rev. Joseph Fessio, Archbishop of San Francisco" -- yes, a thought based on nothing, but Levada raised high is the serpent in the Tree in my book, so I need something to hopeful to think about.


106 posted on 05/13/2005 3:58:23 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Christianity is, by its very nature, joy -- the ability to be joyful." -- Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

I remember seeing that a few months ago.
I used to be a Wiccan, the invocation to the four winds is straight from modern Wiccan writers like Starhawk and Scott Cunningham, it's part of the drawing of a sacred circle. You are inviting the spirits of the elements to attend your ritual .
It's not "sorta" pagan or a misunderstanding, you could find this exact wording the "New Age" section of any bookstore.
It's hardcore, fully pagan.


107 posted on 05/13/2005 3:58:53 PM PDT by kjvail (Monarchy, monotheism and monogamy - three things that go great together)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

LOL


108 posted on 05/13/2005 5:14:22 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: kjvail

I was on the fringes of the goddess movement in the Bay area over 10 years ago (much of it within the Church) during my N.O. days before I discovered Traditional Catholicism.

Starhawk is a fixture in the Bay area. She teaches at a couple of the colleges. I think she is based in Marin county?


109 posted on 05/13/2005 5:17:15 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
you will note that they changed the prayer to that of the Prayer of Saint Francis,

Of course. He is the consummate politician. A chameleon as he needs to be. This guy is potentially more dangerous than Mahony.

110 posted on 05/13/2005 5:21:21 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; kjvail

It's so fascinating to read people's conversion/reversion stories. Thanks for sharing. :-) I think most of us have such points in their lives. I know I've had mine.


111 posted on 05/13/2005 6:02:41 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Doesn't (or didn't) Starhawk teach at the Franciscan Seminary in Berkeley? I seem to recall an abomination like that in the last dozen years.


112 posted on 05/13/2005 8:51:03 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Christianity is, by its very nature, joy -- the ability to be joyful." -- Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger)
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To: kjvail
I used to be a Wiccan

Wiccan to a Catholic monarchist? Wow you've come a long way! God's grace is awesome!

113 posted on 05/13/2005 8:59:51 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: AskStPhilomena

discouraged bumpus ad summum


114 posted on 05/13/2005 9:04:33 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Siobhan

The more I think about it that could be true. I'll do some research.

I know the Jesuit school is riddled with homosexuals, liberation theology and social justice. The priest director of the school gave my conservative N.O. nun friend a very difficult time when she got her Master's.


115 posted on 05/13/2005 10:31:04 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: murphE
God's grace is awesome!

Boundless

116 posted on 05/14/2005 6:06:31 AM PDT by kjvail (Monarchy, monotheism and monogamy - three things that go great together)
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To: kjvail

I think all of us who ever knew anything about wicca knew exactly what was going on.

There is too much wicca playing around in certain "Catholic" groups, often by consecrated women...I keep discovering these awful wiccan prayers on line that nuns have written....

Makes me truly sad.

St. Faustina talks about how Jesus discussed how badly those consecrated to Christ were treating him...and it's even worse now.

Most Holy Trinity - Father, Son, Holy Spirit - I adore You profoundly and offer You the most precious Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ, present in all the tabernacles of the earth, in reparation for the outrages, sacrileges, and indifference by which He Himself is offended. And by the infinite merits of His Most Sacred Heart and those of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I beg of You the conversion of poor sinners. Amen.


117 posted on 05/14/2005 6:19:26 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; kjvail
There is too much wicca playing around in certain "Catholic" groups, often by consecrated women...I keep discovering these awful wiccan prayers on line that nuns have written.... Makes me truly sad.

I'm not convinced that it's entirely all that benign either, seeing it as a group of misguided sinners doing something to "broaden their horizons" (or whatever) as opposed to actually to the deed of whomever their supreme being is

(my hunch it is not God as The Holy Trinity).

Especially where it's originating. There's just too much of it going around in these little Catholic "sects" springing about.

I think if we see the same type of stuff coming from a batch of nuns (or whoever) in the L.A. area...Califorina is past past done.

If CA is so concerned over illegal immigration now, they might not haven't seen anything yet.

118 posted on 05/14/2005 7:55:52 AM PDT by kstewskis (Dang I hope I'm wrong)
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To: kstewskis

As a person who left the neopagan world behind because I saw the hand of God manifest most in the Church, I don't think it's benign at all.

There are a lot of groups playing with this stuff, especially women infected by the bad side of the feminist movement. It's happening in catholic circles, lutheran circles, episcopal circles, and who knows where else.

I am sure the dark one is enjoying the show....


119 posted on 05/14/2005 8:39:18 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel; murphE; te lucis; vox_freedom; AskStPhilomena; sinkspur
Original Site from 2004. According to the wayback machine, ir was creaded in November 2003 and altered in June 2004.

Here is the log:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.sfarchdiocese.org/oneness-english.html

Here is the original page.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040614003359/http://www.sfarchdiocese.org/oneness-english.html

Nonsense like this appears and is removed all the time all over the country.

I think I found another reference:
www.dobschools.org/PDF/PrayFeb2.pdf

The dobSchools.org is the Diocese of Brooklyn/Queens.

The version there is older:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.dobschools.org/PDF/PrayFeb2.pdf
120 posted on 05/16/2005 5:45:41 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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