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Blessing our oneness
Archdiocese of San Francisco ^ | January 2005

Posted on 01/12/2005 7:03:19 PM PST by AskStPhilomena

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Off the deep end
1 posted on 01/12/2005 7:03:19 PM PST by AskStPhilomena
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To: AskStPhilomena

This has to be a parody site. What the heck is this?


2 posted on 01/12/2005 7:08:10 PM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: murphE; AskStPhilomena
Yep. The question begs asking. The text came from the Diocese of SanFransisco.

Why is it here?
3 posted on 01/12/2005 7:16:33 PM PST by hiredhand (Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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To: AskStPhilomena

Jesus, Mary and Joseph, have mercy on us! That is reminscent and probably based on neopagan/new age/wiccan-style formula for consecrating a magic circle...And this comes out of an archdiocesan website?

Now that's getting mighty close to the abomination of desolation....


4 posted on 01/12/2005 7:23:09 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: AskStPhilomena; Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; apologia_pro_vita_sua; attagirl; ...

Well, I guess God, the Holy Trinity, is out of the picture now.


5 posted on 01/12/2005 7:32:32 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: AskStPhilomena

WTF?


6 posted on 01/12/2005 7:38:17 PM PST by sassbox
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To: sassbox

It's a ritual that could be used to cast a magic circle. It reads like something between a wiccan ritual and something from Black Elk Speaks....


7 posted on 01/12/2005 7:41:29 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: AskStPhilomena
Off the deep end

But he's in full communion with Rome.

As an active member of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, Archbishop Levada has served on more than 10 committees including the Committee on Doctrine. From 1987 until 1993, Archbishop Levada was the only American bishop on the Editorial Committee on the Holy See's Commission for a Catechism for the Universal Church. In 1997, Pope John Paul II appointed Archbishop Levada as a delegate to the Special Synod of Bishops for the Americas held in Rome.

8 posted on 01/12/2005 7:49:22 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: murphE; AskStPhilomena
This has to be a parody site. What the heck is this?

AskStPhilomena and I were getting tired of the "cranky trad" stereo type, so we thought we'd lighten things up a bit with some articles geared towards comic relief.

Here's mine!

9 posted on 01/12/2005 7:54:37 PM PST by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Salvation; NYer

Ping!


10 posted on 01/12/2005 8:08:44 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: murphE

Unfortunately, it's not a joke. I myself was present when this very...uh..."prayer???" was recited by three Sisters of St. Joseph at the beginning of a Parents' Guild meeting at my kids' school.

If it happens again, I will speak to the monsignor about it.

Regards,


11 posted on 01/12/2005 8:10:41 PM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: AskStPhilomena

Oh, and Great Spirit of the Earth, try to give us a little warning next time your techtonic plates reach the breaking point mid-ocean. Thanks.


12 posted on 01/12/2005 8:11:19 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: VermiciousKnid

I would complain like all heck, and anybody who knows me knows I don't do this alot, but this is an occult formulation...how dare they, earth goddess worshipping pretending to be catholic people....I


13 posted on 01/12/2005 8:13:59 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: VermiciousKnid

I have heard it two times. The first time I didn't complain. The second time I blew my stack! Unfortunately it was in two different locations. Too bad the first one didn't get a piece of my mind also.

I also blasted the second group on using centering prayer.


14 posted on 01/12/2005 8:37:09 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; VermiciousKnid
"I would complain like all heck, and anybody who knows me knows I don't do this alot, but this is an occult formulation...how dare they, earth goddess worshipping pretending to be catholic people....I"

I would be careful and take him with you.

15 posted on 01/12/2005 8:43:25 PM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: Land of the Irish

and we wonder why rome has difficulty tossing out child molesters.


16 posted on 01/12/2005 10:48:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: AskStPhilomena
Are you saying this was published in the diocesan newspaper of San Francisco,or it is in the brochure introducing the diocese to the world.or what or where was it distributed? This is horrible and I want to know exactly where it was found because I will write to Archbishop Levada about this,it's too nuts for even San Francisco.
17 posted on 01/12/2005 11:43:21 PM PST by saradippity
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To: AskStPhilomena

I was raised Catholic but no longer am I a member of the Catholic church.

Having said that I really have to wonder about the authority of the church.

Who do these people (those who would utter such nonesense) take their orders from?

Does Rome have any say in this or any other thing that goes against the teaching of the church?


18 posted on 01/13/2005 12:12:08 AM PST by PFKEY
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To: AskStPhilomena

Unbelievable. Something tells me that we'll be hearing more on this subject...


19 posted on 01/13/2005 12:15:35 AM PST by Catholic54321
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To: VermiciousKnid
I myself was present when this very...uh..."prayer???" was recited by three Sisters of St. Joseph at the beginning of a Parents' Guild meeting at my kids' school.

Ahhhh, the Sisters of St. Joseph! They wandered off the path, when they began contemplating God in nature. One of their Provincial Houses is just up the block from where I live. During Lent, they open the House to anyone who wishes to attend (for a fee), a series of Lenten reflections. While I attended the mattinee showing of The Passion of the Christ on Good Friday, the Sisters of St. Joseph were reflecting on new life springing from a seed in the garden. It should come as no surprise to anyone, except the Sisters, that their ranks are shriveling up. Perhaps this year, they can spend their Lenten retreat contemplating a 'goose egg' and how it relates to vocations ;-D.

If it happens again, I will speak to the monsignor about it.

Why wait? Strike while the iron is hot! You have other witnesses to this chicanery but be prepared. The monsignor may very well throw his support to the Sisters. Last year, my (now former) pastor, who serves as chaplain at the Provincial House, told me how the Sisters dance at their liturgies. He enjoyed it so much that he decided to introduce liturgical dance to the parish. An exchange of letters with the Diocesan Office for Divine Worship, backed up with solid references, was all it took to stop him cold in his tracks.

20 posted on 01/13/2005 1:03:08 AM PST by NYer ("In good times we enjoy faith, in bad times we exercise faith." ... Mother Angelica)
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