Posted on 01/18/2005 8:29:05 PM PST by Coleus
Hitler plot to kidnap Pope Pius XII detailed
Hitler wanted Pope Pius kidnapped
HITLER’S PLOT TO KIDNAP POPE LEAVES SOME MUTE
NEW BID TO SMEAR POPE PIUS XII FAILS
Sister Margherita Marchione Commentaries on Pope Pius XII
CCJU Interreligious Articles--The Shoah by Sr. Margherita
Pius XII, the Catholic Church & the Holocaust - Online Reference
CORNWELL'S POPE:
"A NASTY CARICATURE OF A NOBLE AND SAINTLY MAN"
Point by Point Rebuttal by Church Historian. Dr.Peter Gumpel
Ping.
Pius XII stood up to the murdering thugs in WWII, just as today John Paul II stands up to the murdering thugs in abortuaries across the planet.
Good article, thanks for posting it.
Aw, c'mon. You wouldn't have to defend the Pope, and the Catholic Church, if the rumors liberals spread about them were false. /sarcasm
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I skimmed the links you provided (thank you). I don't see an exact copy of the Times article. Maybe it is in one of those books?
Does anyone have this? Even if it is in hardcopy, I will throw it up on my server (and not delete it this time...sorry...)
bookmarked. Thank you!
I was listening to the "conservative' John Bachelor on radio last night, and he and the moron he employs as his 'source' and straight man, (I forget his name right now), made the assinine assertion that Pope Pius XII tried to appease Hitler and the Nazis. I just cannot believe how utterly ignorant people can be. All the famous and powerful Jews of the time heaped nothing but praise and thanks upon Pius XII for saving the lives of so many Jews, (an estimated 800,000). Pius XII even went so far as to hire 1,200 new "Palatine Guards" within the Vatican grounds during the Nazi occupation of Italy.... all of whom turned out to be Jews in disguise.
The persistence of the liars and attackers in the face of repeated proof that they are wrong is remarkable.
They are not attacking HH Pius XII alone -- it is an attack on Catholicism and, by extension, all Christianity. Somebody wants very badly to destroy the church.
"Can it be . . . Satan?"
WWII was horrible time for the RC Church but this does not justify broad and incorrect generalisations.
Europe includes Independent State of Croatia as well. Unlike other parts of Europe, in Nazi Independent State of Croatia RC clergy actually took part in extermination of Jews, Serbs and Roma in death camps. Besides an active role in forced conversions, some priests, like Franciscans Filipovic and Rendic were murdering with their own hands. RC nuns were running the concentation camp for Serb children, the only such camp in WWII.
Franciscan priest Rendic
Franciscan Filipovic
Official policy of Croatian Nazis was to kill, expell and convert to RC all Serbs (1/3 of Croatia's population) and make Croatia 100% RC within 10 years and they almost succeeded (murdered over half a million) Regardless of that, Nazi state of Croatia was fully endorsed by PIUS XII. Holy See remains silent about the gross crimes committed by the Croatian Nazis in the name of RC faith to the present day.
There was no danger of RC Church being abolished in Croatia and Pius XII actions can not be explained as "protection of Church from destruction"
Even worse, after WWII, Vatican helped Croatian and other Nazi war crininals to escape justice.
At that time Hitler was dead and presented no threat to the RC Church. Nazis were helped out of Pius XII free will.
This amounts to being accomplice and accessory after the fact in Nazi crimes.
Individual priests were guilty of serious crimes - but in the case of Croatia the worst offenders were publicly excommunicated by the Pope. The Pope's emissary intervened in Croatia to attempt to stop the misconduct. That he was only partially successful does not place blame upon him, but upon the renegade priests who perpetrated the killings.
The lie that the Pope helped Nazis escape to Argentina was thoroughly debunked earlier this week. The only "evidence" is a tinfoil hat conspiracy book which is itself based on a work of fiction, The Odessa Files by Frederick Forsythe. The supposed O.D.E.S.S.A. probably did not exist and certainly did not involve the Vatican.
Try to keep up to date before you become complicit in spreading these vile stories.
I wish you were right. Unfortunatelly, it is not "ODESSA FILE" as you think, it is reams of files in Federal possession.
NARA has boxes and boxes of documents accessible to public. The Army Investigatory Records Repository contains a file on the USTASHA, and it still classified.
Read some of it.
As always, if in doubt, follow the money
Then, decide by yourself whether your comment "Try to keep up to date before you become complicit in spreading these vile stories" is fair one.
From the same "follow the money" link ...papal Rome was responsible for the assassination of U.S. President Abraham Lincoln...
Do you know what is imperfection
I am talking about the official documents in U.S. possession describing how Vatican helped Nazis after WWII.
It is the originals that count, not where it is reported.
Following your logic, no newspaper report could be taken seriously because of the cartoon page in the newspapers.
Nice attempt to derail serious discussion though.
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