Posted on 04/11/2005 7:32:11 PM PDT by lightman
Given the lopsided votes against even more radical change, one wonders what the outcome would have been of a vote to uphold current standards (the request of no less than eight Synods). One wonders further why such a motion was not made.
My guess would be that they don't want to maintain the current standards. They have been looking the other way regarding violations for years; they are ready now to make things ok and out in the open.
Lightman, are you involved in Word Alone?
Here I am again, your Evangelical Orthodox Lutheran friend!
Someone posted on the other thread that their ELCA pastors told them to "leave the interpretation of scripture to experts". Well, even in the ELCA, NO ONE has ever told me that. After all, I know more theology than many ELCA pastors, especially those who have forgotten every bit of theology they ever knew and replaced it with the feminazi/revisionist tommyrot! However, I know that the ELCA liberals in my blue state neck of the woods consider me VERY "intolerant" and much, much too pro-Serbian.
Remember, besides the gaysbian garbage, the ELCA is liklely to approve that new feminazi liturgy and hymnal, which I call "Deconstructing Worship". Between a feminazi "liturgy", gaysbian "pastors", and seminary "professors" who have abandoned the faith for blue state/Eurotrash "culture", I'm likely to go all the way to the Orthodox Church!!!!
Post #4 is for you, too!
My synod is as blue as can be, and as I found out recently, the "lavender" aspect of the synod is much too close to home for confort.
That is one reason I am thnking Orthodox, since decent Lutheran alternatives are just not there. "All church membership is local".
Thank you for the ping .. I should point out that my comment on the other thread was a story related to me by a friend. I am no longer a member of the ELCA.
We just got over a serious leadership problem which led to a serious money problem...now people are leaving or withholding their money because of this ELCA foolishness. Our church has close to or over a million dollar budget to keep our facility open and our staff paid. If we can't pay the bills, we can't offer the ministries. I really resent this stuff interfering with legitimate ministries of the church.
ELCA: Let's go jump off the cliff with the Episco-Baalians.
If you knew what was going on at the sems, you would not be.
There is a terrible irony in the timing of the Council's action on the Monday of the Third Week of Easter. The daily Epistle for yesterday was from 1 John 4:
"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. And this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world."
And the opening Collect in the American Lutheran Publicity Bureau's "For All The Saints" daily prayer book was:
"God our Father,
your light of truth guides us to the way of Christ.
May all who follow him reject what is contrary to the Gospel.
We ask this through our Lord Jesus Christ, your Son,
who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit,
one God, for ever and ever."
Your ex-homies.
I use it for keeping lots of info on the ELCA issue(s) in one place for interested people, particularly those in my church.
Please don't give a dime of you rmoney to the ELCA...at any level. Follow the money trail and you'll run for the door.
The apostate church.
Absolutely!
Kind of figured you would be heading to the SO church. Don't blame you. Just don't forget to pray for those in the ELCA who are trying to figure out what to do now.
I just hope the LCMS doesn't decide to jump off the cliff also.
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