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Analysis: At 78, Ratzinger A Rising Star
The Washington Times ^ | Apr. 15, 2005 | Uwe Siemon-Netto

Posted on 04/18/2005 2:22:37 PM PDT by Dajjal

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In truth, though, this soft-spoken Bavarian, who was consecrated priest at age 24, "is not so much doctrinaire as he is committed to the truth and sound doctrine," a leading Protestant theologian told United Press International Friday.

"He is arguably the Catholic Church's finest theologian, in addition to being a very humble and deeply religious man.

"If he is to be the next pontiff, we may expect extraordinary surprises of him," said this scholar who knows Ratzinger well but asked to remain anonymous.

One surprise may pertain to ecumenism and especially Eucharistic fellowship, Vatican observers said. While Ratzinger played an important role in the drafting of the papal encyclical "Ecclesia de Eucharistia" (Church of the Eucharist), which generally rules out intercommunion between Catholics and Protestants, he is known to have made some remarkable exceptions to this rule himself.

At the funeral Mass for John Paul II, Ratzinger communed the Rev. Roger Schutz, a Swiss Protestant pastor and founder of the Taizé ecumenical community in France.

A German Lutheran theologian well known to the cardinal told UPI that he, too, received the sacrament from his hands.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


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At the funeral Mass for John Paul II, Ratzinger communed the Rev. Roger Schutz, a Swiss Protestant pastor and founder of the Taizé ecumenical community in France.

A German Lutheran theologian well known to the cardinal told UPI that he, too, received the sacrament from his hands.

FYI

(Of course, why were these Protestants going to Communion at a Catholic service in the first place?)

1 posted on 04/18/2005 2:22:40 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal

ping


2 posted on 04/18/2005 2:26:27 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: Dajjal

Wow. Quis custodet ipsos custodes?


3 posted on 04/18/2005 2:26:57 PM PDT by Romulus (Golly...suddenly I feel strangely SEDEVACANTIST!)
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To: Petronski; fortunecookie; Knitting A Conundrum

This is troubling, if accurate.
Read the entire article.


4 posted on 04/18/2005 2:28:32 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Dajjal

charlemagne would be proud.


5 posted on 04/18/2005 2:29:59 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: Dajjal

Interesting. They're hitting Cardinal Ratzinger from both sides now. Someone's really afraid of a Ratzinger pontificate, it would seem.


6 posted on 04/18/2005 2:32:01 PM PDT by B Knotts (Ioannes Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem.)
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To: Dajjal

On second thought, I'm not sure how credible this story is.

Ratzinger did NOT impose a gag on his fellow cardinals. Hadrian VI was NOT a German.

"Ecclesia de Eucharistia" is NOT translated as "Church of the Eucharist".

To receive or give the Sacrament is to "communicate", not to "commune".

Based on this and the article's speculative interpretation of what the Cardinal may have "hinted" at, for the time being I'm going to reserve judgment on everything else reported here.


7 posted on 04/18/2005 2:36:40 PM PDT by Romulus (Golly...suddenly I feel strangely SEDEVACANTIST!)
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To: Dajjal
Of course, why were these Protestants going to Communion at a Catholic service in the first place?

It is my understanding that the "Protestant" being described converted to the Catholic Faith a while back.

8 posted on 04/18/2005 2:37:05 PM PDT by TotusTuus (Christos Voskrese!)
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To: Mo1


I should have pinged you.
What do you make of this?
Can't be certain it's accurate.


9 posted on 04/18/2005 2:40:55 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Dajjal

I suspect it's dirt thrown up to make Ratzinger look bad to our conservative eyes, or good to the liberal wish it was reals.

It was Ratzinger, I believe, that made sure another Asissi never happened. I think this is a piece by someone who has an agenda.


10 posted on 04/18/2005 2:47:55 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: onyx
Not sure if it's accurate .. but I have noticed the media has been pushing for him the last few days

IMO ... I don't think he'll be the next Pope
11 posted on 04/18/2005 2:49:16 PM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: Mo1


It's looking more like "dirt" to me.


13 posted on 04/18/2005 3:02:18 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

What about Assissi II a few years back? Doesn't that count?


14 posted on 04/18/2005 3:22:14 PM PDT by Piers-the-Ploughman
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To: Dajjal

Very disturbing, but not surprising, considering the late Pope John Paul II communicated to both a pro-abort Protestant, Tony Blair, and a Jewish millionaire.

http://www.capeargus.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=55&fArticleId=2477891

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/04/09/ncatholic09.xml


15 posted on 04/18/2005 3:47:22 PM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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To: TotusTuus
It is my understanding that the "Protestant" being described converted to the Catholic Faith a while back.

Roger Schutz is still a Swiss Reformed brother. He did not convert. Taize is an ecumenical community.

16 posted on 04/18/2005 4:14:52 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur

I'm aware that Taize is an ecumenical (Order?) started during the WWII. But I caught a clip of the funeral Mass for Pope John Paul the Great and the commentator, who I believe was Neuhaus, was saying that the leader of the Taize community was now receiving communion (He was in a wheel chair brought up to Ratzinger) and that he had converted to full communion with the Catholic Church. I don't know if it was Roger Schultz or not.


17 posted on 04/18/2005 4:56:26 PM PDT by TotusTuus (Christos Voskrese!)
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To: TotusTuus

Schutz is the leader of Taize, but I could find nothing about any conversion.


18 posted on 04/18/2005 5:17:34 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: Grey Ghost II

Isn't Ratzinger the one that was behind the announcement that the Jews can reject Jesus and find salvation, as they continue to wait for their own savior?


19 posted on 04/18/2005 5:21:01 PM PDT by donbosco74 (Sancte Padre Pio, ora pro nobis, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.)
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To: Grey Ghost II

I can't help but wonder what St. Peter and St. Paul would have to say about rejecting Jesus in favor of some other, more "acceptible" redeemer. It reminds me of the ending of Quo Primum, the wrath of Peter and Paul...


20 posted on 04/18/2005 5:26:40 PM PDT by donbosco74 (Sancte Padre Pio, ora pro nobis, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.)
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