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And to think that I played baseball with him in our youth. He was from Jamaica Estates in Queens, NY.

Where he learned this stuff is beyond me. It is these views that has the Church realing. "...bright new enlightenment in the 1960s." To him, maybe?

1 posted on 04/28/2005 2:00:05 PM PDT by franky
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Many of us who cling desperately to our Catholic Church for instruction...

Oh brother. Big Fat phony!

2 posted on 04/28/2005 2:02:10 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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and to collaborate in improving the world that God created but did not complete.

Huh?!...Is Mario articulating his own theology?

3 posted on 04/28/2005 2:03:48 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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That includes the obligation to be generous to those in need, and to avoid unjust and unnecessary wars that kill innocent people.

And how about avoiding abortions that kill innocent and "unnecessary" people?

4 posted on 04/28/2005 2:06:29 PM PDT by KidGlock (Get in the pit and try to love some one)
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Mario Cuomo is as Catholic as an eggplant is!


6 posted on 04/28/2005 2:07:46 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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And another thing... sorry this struck a nerve. American Catholics think it's all about THEM. But the Church has many many more adherents, in Latin America, and Asia, and Africa. And the Church must remain faihtful to those followers as well as to the teachings of the past. Mario Cuomo and his ilk must realize the Catholic Church is bigger than their concerns for gays and abortion and women priests.


9 posted on 04/28/2005 2:11:01 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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Looks like you answered your own question.


10 posted on 04/28/2005 2:12:49 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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"Many of us who cling desperately to our Catholic Church for instruction, inspiration and support.."

Mario "the Mouth", you have identified exactly why you are NOT a Catholic. The Church IS instructing you and you have rejected it. You should be ashamed. Time for you and your kind to either submit to the authority of the Church or leave and join the rest of the Protestants. You have a gazillion different denominations to pick and choose from if you decide to do that. Don't let the door hit ya in the a$$ on the way out!

11 posted on 04/28/2005 2:13:18 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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If Cafeteria Catholics could choose their own Pope, Mario I would be a contender.


12 posted on 04/28/2005 2:20:28 PM PDT by Argus (This tagline will self-destruct in ten seconds...nine...eight...)
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Duplicate thread.
13 posted on 04/28/2005 2:22:39 PM PDT by marshmallow
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changing its position on slavery, usury, salvation outside the church and divorce

Sorry, abortion-boy, but the Church has never altered its teaching on slavery, usury, salvation outside the Church or divorce.

Keep dreaming, Mario.

14 posted on 04/28/2005 2:23:24 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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readjust those rules to better serve the purpose of helping modern Catholics to live fuller and holier lives in this ever-changing world.

I'm pretty sure Jesus said, 'Go ye and conform yourselves to an ever-changing world.' It's in there somewhere, isn't it? Live according to the wisdom of the world. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember that one. The Gospel according to Mario.

17 posted on 04/28/2005 3:39:00 PM PDT by siunevada
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Mario Cuomo just has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to infallibiilty. He is just repeating a total myth about only two cases of formal acts of infallibilty int the last centery.

Jimmy Akin's of Catholic Answers lays to rest this idea
http://www.jimmyakin.org/2004/06/two_instances_o.html


21 posted on 04/28/2005 6:31:11 PM PDT by Atheist2Theist (http://www.splendoroftruth.com/curtjester/)
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and has in fact done it in the past in changing its position on slavery, usury, salvation outside the church and divorce.

the position on salvation outside the Church and divorce has not changed.

22 posted on 04/28/2005 6:34:57 PM PDT by Judica me
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women's role in the church and other contentious man-made church policies

Anyone that thinks that "women's role in the church" is a man-made policy that is changable doesn't understand the role of the priest in the Church, period.

It is just so pathetically sad that even some that attend Mass weekly don't understand what they are witnessing.

These people haven't a clue that the Catholic Mass is of a fundamentally different character than any other religious ritual (with the possible exception of the Orthodox liturgy)

Its bizarre, it would be akin to holding season tickets for a football team and not knowing what a touchdown was, it boggles the mind, but of course orders of magnitude more important.

23 posted on 04/28/2005 6:52:17 PM PDT by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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Cuomo's own infallibility, however, is apparently limitless.


26 posted on 04/28/2005 7:23:49 PM PDT by gbcdoj (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it. ~ John 1:5)
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Bill Buckley stinks.

That must seem wildly out of place on this thread but whenever I see a piece by/about Mario Cuomo or Fr. Charles Curran, I am reminded why I canceled my National Review subscription. I cancelled it because Buckley promoted these heretics and provided them space in Nat Rev to promote their "nuanced" (girlie-man-speak for heresy) ideas on abortion, homosexuality, masturbation blah, blah, damnable blah.

And I will never forget the "Mater, Si. Magistra, No" abomination.

Heretics like these never tire of demanding the Christian Church imitate the hedonism, worldliness and materialism of secularism.

All their "advice" to Holy Mother Church can be distilled to Choose death.. The "culture" from which they draw their ideas to reform the Christian Church IS dead. And I say let's leave the dead to be buried with the dead.

34 posted on 04/29/2005 12:20:41 PM PDT by bornacatholic ("Christian is my name and Catholic my surname." Pope Benedict XV)
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**the cardinals have chosen a good and holy man who, we are told, rather than reform the status quo will reaffirm it more insistently than before**

Thanks be to God!

Coumo only needs to take the word "instead" out of his sentence. (And go to the Sacrament of Reconciliation!)


47 posted on 04/30/2005 6:25:18 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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