Posted on 04/29/2005 7:22:48 AM PDT by jrny
Ping.
I agree with you. I also do not understand the refusal to commemorate that feast. Then again, St. Joseph is my favorite saint!
As a Protestant,
it all sounds like a bunch of
lunatics mixing
politics with God,
and making religion look
like nannies fighting!
Christmas and Easter were similar and successful efforts to trump pagan celebrations. The Church uses elements of the natural world to convey us to the supernatural. That is basically a definition of liturgy.
Ping!
Do you some perspective since you many remember the implementation of this feast?
Is there a difference
between trumping pagans and
trivializing
Christianity?
If it's all the same, just with
updated posters,
why should pagans change?
If religion's just "drama,"
then why should kids care?
If as a Protestant you cannot appreciate Catholic Liturgy, then why in God's name are you trying to hijack my discussion?
Ping.
And how to you think that we have so many conversions to the Catholic faith?
It starts with little inquiries/comments like this.
*NOVENA PRAYER
*(prayer to be said at the end of each day's devotion)
Saint Joseph, I, your unworthy child, greet you. You are the faithful protector and intercessor of all who love and venerate you. You know that I have special confidence in you and that, after Jesus and Mary, I place all my hope of salvation in you, for you are especially powerful with God and will never abandon your faithful servants. Therefore I humbly invoke you and commend myself, with all who are dear to me and all that belong to me, to your intercession. I beg of you, by your love for Jesus and Mary, not to abandon me during life and to assist me at the hour of my death.
Glorious Saint Joseph, spouse of the Immaculate Virgin, obtain for me a pure, humble, charitable mind, and perfect resignation to the divine Will. Be my guide, my father, and my model through life that I may merit to die as you did in the arms of Jesus and Mary.
Loving Saint Joseph, faithful follower of Jesus Christ, I raise my heart to you to implore your powerful intercession in obtaining from the Divine Heart of Jesus all the graces necessary for my spiritual and temporal welfare, particularly the grace of a happy death, and the special grace I now implore:
(Mention your request).
FULL TEXT
The Roman Catholic Church, the one and original, in business since 33 AD.
We're here to establish the reign of Christ the King. You betcha we're mixing politics, government and religion!
Not really. In HS, however, we were all reminded of this powerful saint, especially on March 19, by our teachers, members of the Sisters of St. Joseph. They celebrate his feast day.
They got it a**-backwards. The commie-friendly Novus Ordo hates this feast (hence its downgrading).
They got it a**-backwards. The commie-friendly Novus Ordo hates this feast (hence its downgrading).
I thought the same. Boggles my mind why the ultra-traditionalists hate this feast as much as the modernists? Strange bedfellows, huh?
Well I learned something today; I never knew St Joseph had another feast day on May 1. I thought March 19 was it. At first it did strike me as pandering to Communism. But if one understands Pope Pius XII's rationale for establishing the May feast, it's not a bad idea. Thinking of St Joseph/May Day along the same lines as Christmas/Saturnalia helps alot and makes it quite apparent this is not a concession to Communism.
When, five weeks later, Pius XII announced the feast of St. Joseph the Worker (which caused the ancient feast of Ss. Philip and James to be transferred, and which replaced the Solemnity of St Joseph, Patron of the Church), there was open opposition to it.
For more than a year the Sacred Congregation of Rites refused to compose the office and Mass for the new feast. Many interventions of the pope were necessary before the Congregation of Rites agreed, against their will, to publish the office in 1956an office so badly composed that one might suspect it had been deliberately sabotaged. And it was only in 1960 that the melodies of the Mass and office were composedmelodies based on models of the worst taste.
"We relate this little-known episode to give an idea of the violence of the reaction to the first liturgical reforms of Pius XII".
I wonder if this is true. The author makes an error later in the article: John XXIII introduced the name of St. Joseph into the Canon during the council, violating the tradition that only the names of martyrs be mentioned in the Canon. He forgot that the Blessed Virgin Mary is the first saint mentioned in the Canon!
Right off the SSPV website! No surprise here :)
against their will, to publish the office in 1956an office so badly composed that one might suspect it had been deliberately sabotaged. And it was only in 1960 that the melodies of the Mass and office were composedmelodies based on models of the worst taste.
Is this opinion or fact? Who determined what is bad composition or taste? I have a copy of the Office, and its antiphons are beautiful ("Christ became worthy to be the son of an artisan"), and the Introit is sung in a beautiful and joyful 7th. Mode. The readings of Matins incorporate the passage of Genesis about how work was dignified BEFORE the fall, and also the writings of Pius XII in establishing this feast.
violating the tradition that only the names of martyrs be mentioned in the Canon. He forgot that the Blessed Virgin Mary is the first saint mentioned in the Canon!
Actually, Our Lady is considered the Queen of Martyrs, and hence they (SSPV) will tell you that she rightfully should be included in that list.
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