[Dr. Eckleburg]

Happiness is not particularly a function of salvation.

Boy, I couldn't disagree with you more. Scripture is filled with assurances that God takes care of His flock.

"Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." -- Hebrews 13:20-21.

[Gingersnap]

"Happiness is not particularly a function of salvation. Boy, I couldn't disagree with you more."

I don't think salvation protects us from the troubles and tragedies that beset most human beings. It may comfort us and strengthen us but it doesn't prevent us from feeling grief or situational fear. Scripture and tradition both have many examples of people whom we presume were saved but who also dealt with fear, despair, or grief.

Conversely, I'm sure there are a few very happy Christians out there who are not saved. My main point was that we too often rely on our subjective feelings these days when we try to determine if an action (or piece of scripture) is "good". Sometimes what is best for us is also difficult, tedious, or frustrating.

[Corin Stormhands]

Boy, I couldn't disagree with you more. Scripture is filled with assurances that God takes care of His flock.

God taking care of his flock is decidedly different than promising happiness. We're promised trials and tribulations in this life.

Jesus said "my Peace I leave with you." Not "my happiness."

[xzins]

Hap-pi-ness is a warm

(yes it is)

Gunnnnnnnn!

(Happiness.....)