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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

I agree. The dialogue the Pope should have with Jews should be this, "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved." Outside of that, what fellowship does light have with the darkness? Judaism, rightly understood, and Christianity, rightly understood are PROFOUNDLY at odds, not just a little bit.


10 posted on 05/15/2005 1:13:34 PM PDT by vigilo
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To: vigilo; malakhi
what fellowship does light have with the darkness?

That's right. We're darkness. We're Christ-killers, you know.

Hey, I don't care if your Pope comes to visit or not. If you don't want him to, fine. And keep out of our business as well. You don't need our friendship, we don't need yours then either.

Last time I checked, Jews didn't do so well over centuries of Catholic "love".

14 posted on 05/15/2005 3:37:52 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (www.JewsforJudaism.org)
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To: vigilo
I agree. The dialogue the Pope should have with Jews should be this, "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved." Outside of that, what fellowship does light have with the darkness? Judaism, rightly understood, and Christianity, rightly understood are PROFOUNDLY at odds, not just a little bit.

He'll take a flashlight with him.

16 posted on 05/15/2005 3:42:22 PM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: vigilo
"Outside of that, what fellowship does light have with the darkness?"

Some of us have even chosen to leave "inner light" religion and other mysticism behind.
25 posted on 05/15/2005 4:14:27 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: vigilo

Gee, and I didn't even know there were still Marcionists around.


26 posted on 05/15/2005 4:19:38 PM PDT by maryz
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To: vigilo
Judaism, rightly understood, and Christianity, rightly understood are PROFOUNDLY at odds, not just a little bit.

Please explain "rightly understood". Otherwise, this is truly an ignorant response. Were it not for the Jews, there would be no Jesus and hence, no christianity. Jesus was a Jew.

27 posted on 05/15/2005 4:19:46 PM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: vigilo
The dialogue the Pope should have with Jews should be this, "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved."

Gosh, I wonder why no one has ever suggested that before?

Thanks, but no thanks.

Outside of that, what fellowship does light have with the darkness?

A good suggestion. So when will you be leaving?

37 posted on 05/15/2005 5:16:46 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: vigilo

The one prayer Jesus taught seems fairly universal to me.


44 posted on 05/15/2005 6:13:57 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: vigilo

Whatever. The fact remains that Our Lord is Jesus Christ, meaning Jesus the Messiah. Whatever the differences, this is, at bottom a family matter, unlike our quarrel with the Muslims.


45 posted on 05/15/2005 6:44:27 PM PDT by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: vigilo; ninenot; SJackson
Vigilo: Just because she was Jewish, do you suppose that Mary was in darkness????? She even had as her Child a Rabbi! How about Him? Was He in darkness? Oh, the scandal!!!!

By the way, lest there be misunderstanding, do you CLAIM to be Roman Catholic? If so, do you nonetheless adhere to the SSPX which was declared a schism by John Paul II? If not, some other form of Christian? Credit for your post needs to be allocated where it belongs.

A story told of St. Ignatius Loyola, Jesuit founder, has it that one of his early priests approached him and warned him that another Jesuit, Fr. Lainez, was a Morano or secret Jew. Ignatius immediately responded to the warning by saying: "How very fortunate Fr. Lainez must be to be related not only to Mary but also to His Blessed Mother!" Lainez later became Superior general of the Jesuits.

Rumor also has it that each and every one of the Twelve Apostles and Jude Thaddeus as well and St. John the Baptist and St. Paul were, well, Jewish and that each of them acquired the new first name: Saint!

72 posted on 05/16/2005 11:59:51 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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