Posted on 07/16/2005 5:46:38 AM PDT by Desdemona
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Interested in your thoughts on the topic. Not just in hair covering, but in grooming for presenting oneself in the Lord's Presence. My family and acquiantances think I'm down right old-fashioned on the topic.
Women should have their heads covered, at least with a kerchief. Even those little decorative, and currently stylish, head kerchiefs they sell at Wal-Mart will do.
If the hair is supposed to be this covering, as is commonly taught today, then the men must shave themsevles bald, for it is a shame for them to pray with their heads covered.
The part of 1st Cor 11 that talks about the women's hair being the covering, is talking about the length of hair. The women's hair should be long enough to cover her shoulders.
Conversely, it is shameful for a man's hair to cover his shoulders. Any length above the shoulders is basically ok for a man. In fact, even a pony tail may be ok on a man, as long as his hair does not cover his shoulders.
Amish men typically have longish hair, though it does not reach to their shoulders, and their women wear the traditional Anabaptist bonnet, varying in style according to sect.
Out of curiousity where do you get these notions?
Other than men shaving their heads bald, I'm not one to disagree, although, I wear my long locks up more often than down.
You misunderstand.
Consider this verse;
1cor 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
If the hair is supposed to be the "covering", as is commonly taught today, then men with hair are dishonoring their head (Christ), because their heads are covered with hair.
All I am doing is applying the logic of the common teaching
on this subject to an actual verse in the Bible.
As you can see, to teach that the hair is supposed to be the head covering is incaccurate.
I often wear a scarf or hat for Mass - less often in the summer, when it's very hot, and less often when I have a decent haircut :-). People stare sometimes, but I don't let it bother me. They stare at us because we have seven children and I'm pregnant again, too.
You're not the only one who does that trick...I wear hats and have several shawls I use, too, as well as scarves...but right now it's soo hot that I haven't done it as much.
Blessings always follow obedience. Unfortunately, obedience often brings the disapproval of the majority, even the 'christian' ones. You must decide which is more important- following God's commandments, or following the whims of man.
My family began observing the 4th Commandment (Remember the sabbath day...) several years ago. We have been absolutely blessed by this, but VERY few in the so-called christian community will even listen to our testimony.
There are many other principles available to us from scripture, which put us at odds with the rest of society, which bring God's blessing. Consider it a test of your faith.
As my hair gets shaggier, I reach the point that I don't even leave the house with my "mysterious Moslem of the Midwest" scarf. Eventually, my husband discovers time in his schedule for me to get a haircut!
If I had better hair, it would all be different, but I look absolutely ghastly if it gets more than four inches long ... like a big gray poodle with fleas.
I used think it was wrong to wear a head covering when I don't have a "conviction" about it - like that God is going to ZOT me if I don't - but then once when I was praying with my charismatic group back in Tulsa, I got the very clear impression that God thinks I'm pretty funny no matter what I do, and anything that gives the Big Guy a chortle is cool with me :-).
There's a few young-uns in my parish who are wearing actual mantillas. There are a few older women who wear hats, but not many others. I was just curious.
The one nice thing about long hair - it takes exactly 10 seconds to "do it" and make it look decent. Bun in a scrungie keeps things very neatly in place.
I've always followed that particular commandment (although I think of it as the third). The question is more on whether or not there is enough respect to dress appropriately at Mass or even Eucharistic Adoration. Some of us really take the time.
Another question is whether or not we see the "trappings" of feminine attire and presentation as being restrictive or freeing. That's more what this article is about.
In the Old Testament Of the Bible, a womans hair is called her crown of glory-nothing in the New Testament refutes that. Nuf sed!
Very true. It's the shorts and the flip flops that drive me nuts. It's not like you have to be uncomfortable, but at least looking decent.
You couldn't say that if you were a poodle :-).
I have a chip-straw hat with a silk rose that I wear in the summer if I'm really dressed up, but that only happens when we split up the family so we don't have to wrestle kids the whole time, and if I'm not hugely pregnant or nursing every hour, which is practically never. Then I have a navy blue wool scarf which I wear all winter, because it's cold in our church. And I have a blue cotton scarf that I wear in warmer weather, if I get the urge.
My daughter's friends in the youth group asked her about it, and she told them I just have Hair Issues.
You wouldn't say that if you were a human poodle, F. J.
Okay, but what does that have to do with covering one's head in the Lord's House?
I happen to have that philosphy myself (hence 25" hanging length as of the moment), but that doesn't speak to the humility of covering that glory while in prayer.
I can't say that I've ever looked like a poodle. The Countess Dracula, maybe, but never a poodle.
The mysteries of genetics.
God looks into our souls-he probably wouldn't recognize our physical selves if he passed us on the street.
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