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Folks, as always, all typos, grammars errors, and assorted blunders, are all mea culpa
1 posted on 07/24/2005 7:31:18 AM PDT by Teófilo
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To: Teófilo

The extreme Trad fools need to be disregarded completely. There is no pre-V2 or post-V2 Church. There is only The Church. You're either in it, or you're a schismatic or a heretic outright.


2 posted on 07/24/2005 7:56:18 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Teófilo

I know the two people who run Tradition in Action very well: Attila Sinke G. and Dr. Marian Horvat. They're both great people, but I can't help but feel that they have gotten lost in a twilight zone world of Masonic conspiracies, quasi sedevacantism and integrism. Like I said, they're great people -- you'll never find two more upright people in every way except in regard to TIA's increasingly integrist tone and approach. I don't know what to do about it. Many of Marian's old friends feel that they have lost her to an almost cult like outlook.


3 posted on 07/24/2005 8:20:12 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Teófilo
When I attended the episcopal consecration of the now Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver as Bishop of Rapid City in the late 1980's, I saw for the first time "liturgical dance." It was beautiful, meaningful, and absorbing. It did not detract from the Mass at all. I'd never seen liturgical dance before, and never since, but let me tell you, it was awesome.

What other parts of the show were "awesome", did you give a big round of applause after the celebration ended?

4 posted on 07/24/2005 8:31:24 AM PDT by Fast Ed97
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To: Teófilo

You make many good points in this post. Many extreme traditionalists sound like very angry, hateful people. Some do give the impression of being more focused on an idol of a Church that never really existed than on Jesus Christ. It is very sad.

However, please do not condone liturgical dance. The Vatican has repeatedly said that dance is not allowed in Masses of the Roman Rite. To add dance to a Mass is an abuse, even if the dancing is pretty and well done (this is not usually the case). When those of us who prefer the Novus Ordo speak favorably of illicit liturigcal practices, it only gives more ammo to the rad trads to use against us.


6 posted on 07/24/2005 9:52:38 AM PDT by sassbox
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To: NYer

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10 posted on 07/24/2005 1:51:09 PM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org)
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Sad, very sad, such hatred and contempt for the Catholic Church.

Beautiful, meaningful, absorbing liturgical dance by little girls in tutus that didn't detract from the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the unbloody sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross.

Somehow I don't recall little girls in tutus as part of the Suffering of Jesus on Calvary. Actually that picture in my mind is obscene.

Moving and primeval Lakota Sioux blessings? Did Jesus die on the Cross so we could make a mockery of His Sufferings?

Welcome to the 21st Century American Catholic Church where meaningfulness is found via prancing girls in tutus celebrating the unbloody sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross complete with pagan blessings but authentic Catholic practices are excoriated and villified.

The entire article contains choice condemnations which contain no historic veracity, which simply serve to reveal the author's lack of intelligent knowledge of the Catholic history of Christendom and the gift that is the Faith.

Where did this article ever surface, Teofilo? Was it actually published or is it simply one lunatics ravings?


11 posted on 07/25/2005 12:16:20 AM PDT by Smocker
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