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Wolves in sheep's clothing- homosexuals at WYD
Catholic Church Conservation ^ | 9 August 2005 | Gillibrand

Posted on 08/08/2005 4:56:32 PM PDT by Gillibrand

Proselytising homosexuals at World Youth Day

KREUZ.NET, the excellent German-language site has published an article Seltsame Gäste beim Weltjugendtag- Strange guests at World Youth Day. This has been translated for Cathcon as follows.

(My apologies that such distasteful material follows. I have avoided, where possible, making links to homosexual sites but necessarily must refer to some of their content. Cathcon comments and clarifications in square brackets)

Strange guests at WYD The abbreviation "KJG" means "Catholic Youth Community Group". But what does "KJGay" mean? Those who believe this to be a bad joke, should take this "humour" more seriously.

"Yeappie – the KJGay can be found soon at the WYD" – This can one read on the [KJGay] website.

The "KJGay" introduce themselves as a community of "homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals and heterosexuals in the Catholic Youth Community Group". The KJG is the largest youth association within the Catholic Church in Germany.

At the end of the third paragraph of the KJG introduction [on their website] they mention their commitment to "admission to the Christian faith" and to a "self-responsible religious life".

It seems that into the "self-responsible religious life" of the KJG, a column of homosexuals has marched in. According to their own statement [KJGay], they are fighting for "the concerns and interests of homosexual young people in the Church".

They want to – apparently within the Church – canvas for "acceptance" for homosexual lifestyle.

It is not clear what this group is looking for at the WYD. It is hoped that they are not looking for the same as they did at their last visit.

(Excerpt) Read more at cathcon.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; homosexual; homosexualagenda; wyd
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1 posted on 08/08/2005 4:56:34 PM PDT by Gillibrand
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To: Gillibrand

Following an e-mail to KJG about the status of KJGay at WYD, I have been contacted by the National Director of KJG.

He says

"KJGay isn't an official group of our association. According to that they will not participate officially in WYD.

As I know there will be of course some people from KJGay participating as normal pilgrims in WYD."

So the National Director of KJG is happy that people from KJGay are participating in WYD! This happiness will not be shared by many participants and, of course, many parents.

I replied, asking if "KJGay isn't an official group of our association", why in so many German cities can KJGay be contacted care of the KJG address. (KJG Trier certainly thinks KJGay is a KJG project.) I also asked why did KJGay participate in the National Conference of KJG if they were not an official group.

I received a reply refusing to answer these simple requests. From which there can be only one conclusion. There is one "truth" for the outside world and the Catholic authorities and another "truth" for KJG's "friends" in KJGay.

KJG has a long history of infidelity. They openly opposed Bishop Reinhard Marx of Trier when he suspended a priest for performing a Lutheran communion service at the Ecumenical Church Day in Berlin in 2003. (sorry in German).


2 posted on 08/09/2005 7:26:45 AM PDT by Gillibrand (Gillibrand)
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To: Gillibrand
St. Paul to the Romans 1:26-27:

"[26] For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged the natural sexual relations for unnatural ones, [27] and likewise the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed in their passions for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

1st letter of St. Paul to the Corintians, 6:18-20:

"Shun immorality. Every other sin which a man commits is outside the body; but the immoral man sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God? You are not your own; you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body."
3 posted on 08/09/2005 7:42:45 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Gillibrand
Quote from the KJG group:
"As I know there will be of course some people from KJGay participating as normal pilgrims in WYD."

The obvious pertinent word here is normal.

Get it? normal

4 posted on 08/09/2005 11:42:34 AM PDT by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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To: Gillibrand

Back when I used to attend such things (before I lost my faith), I always noticed that the Catholic youth groups, especially on college campuses, did attract a considerable number of effeminate men. Why is it that gays seem so attracted to my ancestral faith?


5 posted on 08/09/2005 11:45:17 AM PDT by Clemenza (Intelligent Design Isn't Very Intelligent)
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To: Clemenza

Why did you lose your faith? Just Catholism, or all faith?


6 posted on 08/09/2005 3:55:10 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Darwinists are slime.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

All faith. I'll get back to you when I get out of work.


7 posted on 08/09/2005 4:00:43 PM PDT by Clemenza (Intelligent Design Isn't Very Intelligent)
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To: Clemenza

What exactly doe losing one's faith entail?


8 posted on 08/10/2005 8:19:32 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Gillibrand
"self-responsible religious life".

Does that include the call to chastity and the avoidance of homosexual acts, which are of their very nature sinful? If not, then this is not a group following Catholic teaching.

9 posted on 08/18/2005 4:56:52 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Clemenza; scripter

Losing your religion?
ping to the list


10 posted on 08/18/2005 5:00:52 PM PDT by darkangel82 (This message is brought to you by the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Gillibrand
I reckon they want to force the issue with B-16.

Let the smack down continue.

11 posted on 08/18/2005 5:29:15 PM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: darkangel82; little jeremiah
ping to the list

Pinging lj.

12 posted on 08/18/2005 8:49:17 PM PDT by scripter (Let temporal things serve your use, but the eternal be the object of your desire.)
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To: scripter

I WILL get to pinging but another "thing" came up so it will likely be the day after tomorrow...

:-(


13 posted on 08/18/2005 9:18:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: scripter

AACK! I just read the article. Will ping it later tonight or early tomorrow AM.


14 posted on 08/18/2005 9:19:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: scripter

I didn't ping him to it because he's been so stressed out lately.


15 posted on 08/18/2005 9:24:02 PM PDT by darkangel82 (This message is brought to you by the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Gillibrand

The man went to see the psychiatrist and said, "Doctor, I am in love with my horse."

The psychiatrist asks him, "Is your horse male, or is it female?"

The man gets very angry and screams at the psychiatrist, "Female! What do you think I am, queer?"


16 posted on 08/18/2005 9:57:16 PM PDT by punster
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Wolves in sheeps' clothing are the worst kind of wolves. When wolves look, sound and act like wolves, and are in a wolf pack, you know you need to protect yourself and others.

That is why humans with wolf hearts and minds disguise themselves in order to prey on their victims. And what better group of victims than a large number of young people interested in religion? Interested in being good, being kind, learning about God? Wolves would have a field day.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.

You may have noticed that you haven't gotten pings from me in several days. Been busy with "real life", be back to my duties in a couple of days.

If each of us, no matter how small, unimportant, uninfluential, uneducated, financially destitute, or talentless we may consider ourselves, want to do something to turn society away from the lemming like dive off into the abyss, we will find something we can do. My method?

(From a ping to my other list:)

"*Note: My method is to ask God to use me as a tool, to use as He wishes, dull and half broken as I am. I humbly suggest it for one and all."


17 posted on 08/18/2005 10:55:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: darkangel82

Ping me! I'll be back in a couple of days.

Remember what makes coal into diamonds...


18 posted on 08/18/2005 10:56:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Gillibrand

I would think that the Catholic church would have had more than enough of the homo-perve experience.


19 posted on 08/18/2005 11:10:28 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (If you think you're having a bad day, try crucifixtion.)
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To: Antoninus
Utterly true. Saint Paul tells the truth.

Leviticus 20 binds both the Old and the New Covenants.

"For most certainly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished." Matthew 5:18
20 posted on 08/19/2005 12:15:20 AM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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