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Catholic Exchange ^ | August 18, 2005 | Rich Leonardi

Posted on 08/18/2005 5:23:45 AM PDT by Desdemona

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1 posted on 08/18/2005 5:23:45 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: NYer; Salvation; sandyeggo; ninenot; ArrogantBustard; Siobhan

Any comments? I think there are some valid points.


2 posted on 08/18/2005 5:25:32 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: Desdemona

I learned about 20 years ago that ANYTHING from "St Anthony Press"--US Catholic, St Anthony Messenger--is usually just garbage.

At that time, Leonardi was about 15...


3 posted on 08/18/2005 5:31:13 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Desdemona
For the very best that empirical experience might have achieved was an experience of resuscitation, not resurrection

Completely false, and borders on the heretical. Christ raised himself from the dead, regardless of the word, and had restored his glorified Body.

Empirical data be damned, common sense would lead any person to think Christ would not take on the fallen body of man, but the glorified body of pre-fall Adam.

Tracts like these often get muddled in some little ax the writer has to grind while missing the fundamental question of the writer. This is why I think people like Keating, Madrid and Hahn are geniuses in apologetics, they keep the message simple, short, and to the point.
4 posted on 08/18/2005 5:42:44 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Desdemona

Who reads them? No one except the postmenopausals that actually run our parishes. And they do so with the same glee that they sing the Jesus Christ Superstar "hymns" at Mass. Ugh!


5 posted on 08/18/2005 7:19:43 AM PDT by sanormal
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To: Desdemona

Bump!


6 posted on 08/18/2005 7:29:06 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: seamole
Abp. Pilarczyk turns 75 on August 12, 2009.

When we note the 75th birthdate of a Bishop, you know something is wrong...
8 posted on 08/18/2005 8:42:28 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Desdemona

I picked that particular issue up in the vestibule and found it rather disappointing. I expected something else from the title.

I've been a sponsor at RCIA for several years and have seen a number of Catholic Updates over the years. Fortunately, the RCIA team doesn't hand them out willy-nilly. They actually read them and not every Update makes the cut.


9 posted on 08/18/2005 10:16:27 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: Desdemona

I was told at my old university center that I could call on these for any of my Sunday School lessons. I NEVER did. All I had to see, was that the esteemed, Remert E. Weakland wrote one, to know that I wanted nothing to do with them. Instead, I used the Catechism, the Bible, and the Midwest Theological Forums "Intro to Catholicism."

Too many of these "theologians" are dissenters in sheeps clothing and I am a little sick of giving them aid and comfort.


10 posted on 08/18/2005 10:23:25 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Dominick

Speaking of turning 75. Is McCarrick still around? I thought his resignation was expected immediately, I was looking forward to finding out his successor.


11 posted on 08/18/2005 10:25:39 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat

Dear StAthansiustheGreat,

Cardinal McCarrick has submitted his resignation. Rumor has it that it will be accepted within the year, which I am to understand is relatively speedy for a cardinal.

However, I doubt that Pope Benedict XVI desires to intentionally slap Cardinal McCarrick in the face, so I doubt that any announcement regarding the appointment of a successor will occur much before late Autumn or even Winter.

In the Archdiocese of Washington, we wait with bated breath.


sitetest


12 posted on 08/18/2005 10:30:55 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

Ok, I was just wondering. Thanks. By the way, you know me, I used to be NWUArmyROTC.


13 posted on 08/18/2005 10:32:40 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: sitetest

Ok, I was just wondering. Thanks. By the way, you know me, I used to be NWUArmyROTC.


14 posted on 08/18/2005 10:33:05 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat

Dear SATG/NWUAROTC,

Okay, looks like you got a "promotion." ;-)

I'm personally hoping that Cardinal McCarrick's successor is someone like Archbishop Burke, Archbishop Chaput, or (dare I hope???) Bishop Fabian "Excommunicate ALL the Heretics, Let God Sort 'Em Out" Bruskewitz (I know, I know, that's a bit beyond hoping).

However, I'm concerned that rather we may get a clone of, say, Cardinal Keeler (due to retire in 2006), or worse yet, Cardinal Egan.


sitetest


15 posted on 08/18/2005 10:38:26 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

"However, I'm concerned that rather we may get a clone of, say, Cardinal Keeler (due to retire in 2006)"

Libera nos, Domine.

Currently suffering in one of the worst Archdioceses on the East Coast (Baltimore). I've only lived in Maryland for 5 years, so I don't knwo much about Keeler (public views and such), but Baltimore reeks of liturgical abuses and heterodoxy. Send me a private mail and let me know specifically what is the synopsis of Card. Keeler. Others I have asked give me very vague responses.


16 posted on 08/18/2005 11:23:02 AM PDT by jrny (Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto Decimo Sexto.)
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To: sitetest
I'm glad to see that you realize that you are not allowed to even hope to take Bishop Thomas Olmsted away from Phoenix!
17 posted on 08/18/2005 3:23:08 PM PDT by TotusTuus
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To: Desdemona
Any comments? I think there are some valid points.

Yes he has many valid points.

In the larger picture however, the whole concept of using "dumbed-down" tracts to teach the Faith in RCIA (where the "A" is for "Adults"), is the problem. The Faith should clearly be taught from a serious catechism designed for Adults, if not the CCC.

It is ultimately the responsibility of the bishops in each of their respective dioceses to implement a strong catechetical formation process for RCIA. Allowing this "tract" method allows dissidents power to distort the Faith before those who are inquiring, just as this article discusses.

18 posted on 08/18/2005 3:32:49 PM PDT by TotusTuus
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To: TotusTuus
Dear TotusTuus,

"I'm glad to see that you realize that you are not allowed to even hope to take Bishop Thomas Olmsted away from Phoenix!"

The thought HAD occurred to me.

But, then I thought, nah, the folks in Phoenix suffered long enough, and Bishop Olmsted probably has just begun on the Aegean Stables out there.

However, if, in the wisdom of the Holy Father, Bishop Olmsted is the right man for the job, I'M NOT GOING TO OBJECT!!!

;-)


sitetest
19 posted on 08/18/2005 4:18:49 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
"...Bishop Fabian "Excommunicate ALL the Heretics, Let God Sort 'Em Out" Bruskewitz..."

You know, he would be perfect for DC, the Capitol of our nation, precisely because he is from the Midwest.

The culture shock he would be able to generate with all our federal officials located there would be awesome. The Catholic Faith would be taught to the whole nation through the national press on nearly a nightly basis. (heehee)

Just think of all the potential threads right here on FR....

20 posted on 08/18/2005 5:08:41 PM PDT by TotusTuus
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