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To: RKBA Democrat
It's not at all ironic. Schism breeds further schism. It has always been that way. Once you set yourself up as "knowing better" than the buck-stops-here-authority, there's really nothing to prevent someone else seting himself up as "knowing better" than you. Notice the fissiparity of Protesantism--initially one, then within 4 years (1517-1521) two (Zwingli, Luther), then another 4 years 3 (Anabaptists in Zurich), then an explosion of Anabaptist sects, plus Calvin and the race was on. There may have been 20 or 25 significant groups after 25 or 30 years, a few hundred by the 1700s, then perhaps a thousand by the late 1800s and the splitting knows no end. Schism is schism-producing.

And before anyone protests that the SSPX doesn't intend to split from Rome--that's exactly what Luther insisted he did not intend--even as he did it. He only wanted to correct the bad portion of the Church--for him, the entire papal/episcopal Church; for the SSPX, the infected Vatican II papacy. But the reasoning used by both is remarkably similar. And Luther had absolutely no defense against Zwingli's rival interpretation of Scripture. He could pound the table and shout and tell Zwingli he was wrong, but he lacked any authority that Zwingli could be expected to recognize and submit to because Luther had claimed for himself the authority to sit in judgment on the pope. The pigeons he launched simply came home to roost.

59 posted on 09/17/2005 2:52:31 PM PDT by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

Good post. Well put. Thanks.


60 posted on 09/17/2005 2:54:16 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

"It's not at all ironic. Schism breeds further schism. It has always been that way. Once you set yourself up as "knowing better" than the buck-stops-here-authority, there's really nothing to prevent someone else seting himself up as "knowing better" than you. Notice the fissiparity of Protesantism--initially one, then within 4 years (1517-1521) two (Zwingli, Luther), then another 4 years 3 (Anabaptists in Zurich), then an explosion of Anabaptist sects, plus Calvin and the race was on."

Yes, schism does tend to breed schism. And with each successive schism, it becomes harder and harder to sort out the original grievances and bring those who have schismed back into the fold.

Which brings me back to my original point: I favor reunification with SSPX on very generous terms. This is a very recent schism and thus, in my view, probably one that is more likely to be resolved.


77 posted on 09/17/2005 7:42:00 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

What a remarkably sensible post! Good for you!


107 posted on 09/18/2005 12:56:10 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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