"To tell you the truth, between you and bornacatholic, who both show much lack of charity to non-Catholics, I might seek out the SSPX if I ever convert."
Let me extend my regards, and welcome you to the FR (Catholic) religious forum.
You'll see some good discussion here, but remember to watch for the flying furniture. Please also be forewarned that any time you post anything about SSPX that doesn't start with the words: "they're heretics who deserve to burn at the stake...." will result in a rhetorical end table or divan being sent in your general direction.
Please excuse some of my more animated Roman Catholic bretheren. They're simply providing us with their very unique insights on Christian love and charity. Views which are not held by the vast majority of practicing Roman Catholics, I might add.
Also, rather than looking at SSPX, you might want to step back and see what the other 22 churches in the universal Catholic church have to offer.
God Bless and Welcome.
"Also, rather than looking at SSPX, you might want to step back and see what the other 22 churches in the universal Catholic church have to offer."
Obviously, a 'unity in diversity' fan but if you were to analyse the breadth of opportunities within Newchurch you would encounter all tastes from sainthood to sodomy though the two may not be mutually exclusive nowadays given the calibre of some candidates. And for those without olive oil in their blood, exotic eastern churches may seem rather alien places. Conversion only matters now within traditionalist circles since the liberals consider the practice unnecessay.
Will you apologize for them also?
2 John
9 Whosoever revolteth and continueth not in the doctrine of Christ hath not God. He that continueth in the doctrine, the same hath both the Father and the Son.
Now, in the first place, the Church teaches that in this matter there is question of a most strict command of Jesus Christ. For He explicitly enjoined on His apostles to teach all nations to observe all things whatsoever He Himself had commanded (Matt. 28: 19-20). Holy Office letter to Ruchard Cushing
Now, among the commandments of Christ, that one holds not the least place by which we are commanded to be incorporated by baptism into the Mystical Body of Christ, which is the Church, and to remain united to Christ and to His Vicar, through whom He Himself in a visible manner governs the Church on earth.
Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth.
St. Augustine
The civil powers defend their conduct in persecuting schismatics by the rule which the apostle laid down: "Whoso resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God; and they that resist shall receive to themselves judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: for he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." The whole question therefore is, whether schism be not an evil work, or whether you have not caused schism, so that your resistance of the powers that be is in a good cause and not in an evil work, whereby you would bring judgment on yourselves. Wherefore with infinite wisdom the Lord not merely said, "Blessed are they who are persecuted," but added, "for righteousness' sake." I desire therefore to know from you, in the light of what I have said above, whether it be a work of righteousness to originate and perpetuate your state of separation from the Church. I desire also to know whether it be not rather a work of unrighteousness to condemn unheard the whole Christian world, either because it has not heard what you have heard, or because no proof has been furnished to it of charges which Were rashly believed, or without sufficient evidence advanced by you, and to propose on this ground to baptize a second time: the members of so many churches rounded by the preaching and labours either of the Lord Himself while He was on earth, or of His apostles; and all this on the assumption that it is excusable for you either not to know the wickedness of your African colleagues who are living beside you, and are using the same sacraments with you, or even to tolerate their misdeeds when known, lest the party of Donatus should be divided, but that it is inexcusable for them, though they reside in most remote regions, to be ignorant of what you either know, or believe, or have heard, or imagine, concerning men in Africa. How great is the perversity of those who cling to their own unrighteousness, and yet find fault with the severity of the civil powers!
*Start apologizing, brother. There are MILLIONS of Catholics, dead and alive, who despise schism. You're gonna be so busy apologizing for us you won't have time to say a schism is good :)
The SSPX are surely schismatics and, in a sane world, would be roasting on an open fire. As The Geezer points out, they may also be heretics in their views of papal authority and denial of their obligations to obey. Knuckling under to error or even tolerating it is NOT love.