Posted on 09/26/2005 6:29:50 PM PDT by laney
Oct. 4 will indeed be a holy day. For the first time in 33 years, two world religions will simultaneously mark the beginning of their most sacred seasons on the same day. Jews will celebrate Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year that also begins the 10-day period known as the “Days of Awe.” And Muslims will usher in Ramadan, the holy month that is marked by daily fasting between sunrise and sunset.
Christians, meanwhile, will be marking the Feast of St. Francis of Assisi, also on Oct. 4. Across the country, religious communities are using the calendar's coincidence as a launch pad for interfaith projects around topics ranging from the political to the spiritual. Rabbi Arthur Waskow, the director of the Philadelphia-based Shalom Center, a national peace and justice organization, has dubbed the confluence of holidays “God's October Surprise.”
Why Rosh Hashana and Ramadan Meet Only Once Every 33 Years
Everybody knows that there are 365 days in the solar year. But how many know the number of days in a lunar year? The answer is 354, 11 days fewer than the solar calendar. Judaism and Islam, which both observe a lunar calendar, treat this disparity differently, explaining why it is so noteworthy that this year, the Muslim holy month of Ramadan begins on the same day as the Jewish new year, Rosh Hashana (Oct. 4).
Ramabomb and Jewish High Holy Days... talk about an explosive combination. One celebrates with jihad, the other with peace, penitence, and prayer. How many rocks and bricks will be hurled over the Wall? Not to mention that the patron saint of beasts is tossed in the mix.
Well, uh, that's quite the moniker......hope it doesn't prove to be prophetic.
I understand why the lunar calendar is different. What I don't understand is why it is noteworthy that a holiday happens to coincide every 33 years.
I'll be celebrating more October 7, Our Lady of the Rosary, a result of the Battle of Lepanto.
Only those Christians that misinterpret the new covenant and place continuing significance on the old covenant cultic rituals that God gave to national Israel, which all passed from the scene in the 1st century.
Thankfully they are a minority.
tc54>Only those Christians that misinterpret the new covenant and place continuing significance on the old covenant cultic rituals that God gave to national Israel, which all passed from the scene in the 1st century. Thankfully they are a minority.
How do you read Jeremiah 31-40 ?
Where the L-rd states the New Covenant is to made with the house of Judah and Israel.
b'shem Y'shua
Hmmm, what other significance does "33 years" have?
Yep, and that what it says in the book of Hebrews is a present reality. Quoting Jeremiah, the writers says, "In that He says, 'A new covenant,' He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away" (Heb. 8:13). The new covenant is with us now. It is a present reality for "the house of Israel and the house of Judah". All who place their trust in Jesus Christ, whether Jew or gentile, are members of the new covenant body, the body of Christ.
Well, it's the amount of time Hal Lindsey and others thought would pass from the founding of the state of Israel in 1948 until the "secret rapture" of the church. Probably not significant any more. That theory has been discredited.
Leviticus 23 outlines all the Feast Days of the Lord and stipulates that these Festivals are to be lasting ordinances for all of your generations to come, wherever you are .
You, my friend, are the one misinterpreting scripture. And yes, we are a minority. The Lord himself referred to us as his little flock (Luke 12:32). The Church was never shown in scripture, or prophecy, to be a dominant influential, worldly organization. I would ask you for your scriptural proof of the abolishment of these ordinances but it is always a waste of time because generally I get nothing back except something about "traditions of the early fathers". When someone does try to give me a scriptural proof it is always with regards to something totally different and has nothing to do with God's Festivals.
So is it your opinion that the Levitical priesthood and the bloody sacrificial system is still a legitimate expression of worship to God? They do fall under the same "everlasting ordinances" rubric, do they not?
You cannot separate one from the other. The festival system was inherently bloody. There is no legitimate keeping of those old covenant festivals without the shedding of animal blood. E.g., "But you shall offer an offering made by fire to the Lord for seven days. And you shall offer with the bread seven lambs of the first year, without blemish, one young bull, and two rams. They shall be as a burnt offering to the Lord, with their grain offering and their drink offerings, an offering made by fire for a sweet aroma to the Lord." (Lev. 23:8,18). Nowhere has God "changed the rule" ala modern "messianic" practices.
I'm afraid you are the one misinterpreting Scripture by selectively deciding which cultic laws to observe, and then creating your own rules on how to be "observant".
"Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it" (Deut. 12:32).
Tell us plainly where God has changed the commandment in Lev. 23, and made acceptable to Him the observance of Levitical feast days without the shedding of blood and burnt offerings?
31 "Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah,
32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD.
33 "But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them, and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
34 "And they shall not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them," declares the LORD, "for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."
35 Thus says the LORD, Who gives the sun for light by day, And the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, Who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar; The LORD of hosts is His name:
36 "If this fixed order departs From before Me," declares the LORD, "Then the offspring of Israel also shall cease From being a nation before Me forever."
37 Thus says the LORD, "If the heavens above can be measured, And the foundations of the earth searched out below, Then I will also cast off all the offspring of Israel For all that they have done," declares the LORD.
38 "Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when the city shall be rebuilt for the LORD from the Tower of Hananel to the Corner Gate.
39 "And the measuring line shall go out farther straight ahead to the hill Gareb; then it will turn to Goah.
40 "And the whole valley of the dead bodies and of the ashes, and all the fields as far as the brook Kidron, to the corner of the Horse Gate toward the east, shall be holy to the LORD; it shall not be plucked up, or overthrown anymore forever."
There are those who having been grafted into Abraham who are members of this new covenant.
b'shem Y'shua
Yes, we call it the Church. It is a present reality. Jeremiah 31 has been and continues to be fulfilled.
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Gal. 3:28,29)
PERFECT! What a wonderful opportunity for ASSISSI III!
Orthodox and Episcopalians do.
1948+33=1981. That makes Ronald Reagan the second coming?
>> So is it your opinion that the Levitical priesthood and the bloody sacrificial system is still a legitimate expression of worship to God? They do fall under the same "everlasting ordinances" rubric, do they not? <<
Actually, yes. The sacrifice of Christ on the altar is eternal.
>> So is it your opinion that the Levitical priesthood and the bloody sacrificial system is still a legitimate expression of worship to God? They do fall under the same "everlasting ordinances" rubric, do they not? <<
The blood of the lamb.
>> PERFECT! What a wonderful opportunity for ASSISSI III! <<
(I hope everyone recognizes the sarcasm...)
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