Posted on 10/14/2005 6:07:17 AM PDT by Petrosius
Unless my sacramentology is off...these men were NEVER ordained in the strict sense of the word. Yes, they were "ordained" according to their Protestant denomination. But not sacramentally as we understand the sacrament of Holy Orders. So, yes, mike, they had to be ordained because they never received Holy Orders as protestants. It doesn't exist.
Your vow of obedience made to Rome contains no stipulations regarding the celibacy of deacons.
Well, that's for sure because I remain married and part of the clergy. The vow of obedience is a separate vow from the vow of celibacy.
...it makes them better priests
Ya think? I suppose it made the pedophile priests better? And celibacy makes the 30 to 60% of homosexual priests better? And those celibate priests who have worked so hard towards heterodoxy in the liturgy and faith and morals? I am convinced that neither marriage nor celibacy has anything to do with making a man "better" at serving God. God gives grace through both sacraments and the man uses or abuses that grace.
Not exactly. It is true that in the late'60s and early '70s, the seminaries lost many, many students. That is because many faithless priests had encouraged the seminarians to believe that the Church was about to abolish the celibacy vow and allow them to marry before ordination. But, again, false, faithless, or unhappy priests were the cause.
The fact remains that In the Latin rite there is a continuous tradition of celebate priests going back for a millenium, and furthermore, the abandonment of celibacy wass an important aspect of the Protestant revolt. The practical effect of abandoning this tradition will have consequences not unlike the abandoment of the old Mass. Especially in the Protestant/secular societies of the West, it will reduce the priesthood to the level of a profession in the narrow sense of the professions of law, medicine, or--worst--the protestant ministry.
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