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About the Author: After growing up as a third-generation Jehovah's Witness, Mary Kochan worked her way backwards through the Protestant Reformation to enter the Catholic Church on Trinity Sunday, 1996. Mary has done extensive work and research on the problem of religious cults, writing and speaking to live and radio audiences and answering questions about all aspects of cultic behavior. She is married to Daniel and is a member of St. Theresa parish in Douglasville, Georgia.
1 posted on 10/17/2005 6:29:01 AM PDT by NYer
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After growing up as a third-generation Jehovah's Witness, Mary Kochan worked her way backwards through the Protestant Reformation to enter the Catholic Church

Marcus Grodi's round table discussion on EWTN last night, was about the Jehovah's Witnesses. Hope this author writes another piece on them.

2 posted on 10/17/2005 6:31:08 AM PDT by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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Well, yeah but.......

They get to wear the magical underpants.

How can we compete with that?


3 posted on 10/17/2005 6:32:25 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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Many of the GRPL got into major trouble for criticizing or disagreeing with LDS members.


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!

4 posted on 10/17/2005 6:47:28 AM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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Mormons want you to believe that they are "Christians" and that their church, "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints," is just another Christian denomination.

Harry Turtledove, (author of alternative history fiction) has a special place in his heart for the Latter Day Saints.

In his stories, he sends in government troops every third chapter in order to quell and quash the ever ongoing Mormon insurrections. The Saints, like the Muslims, continually agitate for sovereignity and self determination. According to Turtledoves fictional narratives, the Mormons had to rebuild the Salt Lake City temple several times within the space of once book.

7 posted on 10/17/2005 7:05:39 AM PDT by i.l.e. (Tagline - this space for sale....)
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A woman told me her perspective on power. Power corrupts men to either become a Hitler or Hefner. The Mormon cult attraction is greater for men (given the fleshly desire for multiple sex partners) and it's a burden on wives (and the politics suffered in the Mormon family for women who don't produce). Abraham had a similar problem when he produced a son from Hagar instead of Sarah. Marriage must be one man and one woman. Anything else is chaos.

The Mormon heresy is no different than the first sin issued by a fallen angel, Satan: (Gen 3:5) "No, God knows well that the moment you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods who know what is good and what is bad."

This continual lie dominates the worst heresies throughout human history from original sin, to Arianism, to present "new age" cults that devolves human personhood into some sort of recyclable life force (as if we can lick a 9 volt battery for communion).

The temptation for the "tree of knowledge" and the mysteries of evil is that it doesn't require the Passion of martyrdom or lifelong physical labor to work for Salvation. This tempting wickedness rewards sinful behavior with multiple sex partners and frees the violent to force his hand on his neighbors when they don't submit to such domination. The spiritual temptation, as the cult schisms further from Truth, is that a soul sees all disciplined desires as a trap keeping it from fleshly happiness. Eventually, for the cult elite, anything goes. Corruption becomes complete, debauchery is rationalized, subordinates are fleeced, murder removes witnesses to crimes, and then the congregation is served cool aid.

I wouldn't be a good candidate to nurture a change from one born out of the Christian Life. God Bless those who can speak honestly with non-Christian cults and show them the Light. I think I'll have to post a copy of Mary Kochan's article at the door for wandering non-Christian salesmen rather than waste time debating (and doing a bad job of it).
10 posted on 10/17/2005 7:12:56 AM PDT by SaltyJoe (A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
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Kindly explain why posting this sort of article is an expression of good Christian values?

Or, does dragging others down make you feel more secure?


24 posted on 10/17/2005 8:42:00 AM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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I have a friend who joined the lds church for about a yr. and this is where I learned a bit about it.. they do believe that there are 3 separate gods, they are made of flesh, and that god the father has parents, and when you die, you can either live in "heaven" with god the father, or the son or the holy spirit, depending on how you lived your life, living with god the father would be the better of the three. Also, when you die, you live with your family, and that the more children you have the better.

but what happens if you are widowed and you remarry and have more kids and what happens if one of the spouses gets sent to hell or to heaven with god the holy spirit, while you live with god the father? It's a bit confusing. He didn't get to the point of wearing special underwear nor did he go to the special temple which is supposed to resemble heaven, where you need an ID card to get in.

I understand the BSA has a special handbook just for mormon scouts too..

34 posted on 10/17/2005 9:47:40 AM PDT by Coleus ("Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
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The author's summary of Mormonism is mostly wrong, sometimes egregiously so.

Anyone who wants to know what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints actually teaches would do better to ask a knowledgeable member of the Church. (Or go to the LDS Church web site.)

49 posted on 10/17/2005 11:56:47 AM PDT by Logophile
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Nice post, thank you NYer. Mormons are indeed peddling themselves as "Christians" and there are many in America who don't doubt it because very few people know about them. FR needs more such informative posts.


77 posted on 10/17/2005 4:57:22 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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Mormons want you to believe that they are "Christians" and that their church, "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints," is just another Christian denomination. Mormons themselves believe that they are Christians and that their church is the only true church.

Wow. They sound like a bunch of Catholics.

83 posted on 10/17/2005 6:18:22 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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I want to know more about the Uma and the Thurman stuff.


84 posted on 10/17/2005 6:19:52 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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What does Mormonism teach about praying to Mary?


85 posted on 10/17/2005 6:20:55 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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The post-4th century Christians wouldn't be called Christian either by those of the original Church that Jesus Christ founded. After the radical Hellenization of the Church in the 2nd century and after the Emperor of Rome warped the Church in the 4th century by dictating its doctrine, few of the original Church would recognize it or claim it.
154 posted on 10/22/2005 6:10:55 AM PDT by Spiff (Robert Bork on the Miers Nomination: "I think it's a disaster on every level.")
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BTTT


178 posted on 10/23/2005 10:13:45 AM PDT by SweetCaroline (Senior's read the Bible more often because their cramming for the final exam!)
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