Annulment nightmare update

[TheStickman]

As best I can figure it's now been 18 months since I began the annulment process.

[TheStickman]

After paperwork snafu's, incorrect info, a lack of assistance from the parish priest and generally poor advice from the parish side to go with the paperwork snafu's and other instances of administrative incompetence, horribly worded questionaires, the refusal of my ex to participate, I was told last week we were now waiting on a "slot" to open up so one of the psychologists can review the case. I asked for some sort of time frame to hear something...anything at all.

"Call back in 2 months and check on your case," was the answer.

On the upside, God directed my beloved wife and I to a parish further from home which is much more pro-active in helping their members who are enduring the annulment process as it's practiced in this diocese.

Please pray for us while we wait for the process (which is horribly adminstered in this diocese--seems 18-24 months is the norm, go figure), to run it's course. Also, please pray God will instill in those working at the Tribunal to effectively perform their duties in a timely fashion.

[Lunatic Fringe]

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[Tax-chick]

Best wishes to you! I've known others who have experienced similar frustration. I'm impressed by your perseverance.

[RexBeach]

Hi! My fiancee is just getting underway with her annullment process.

Hang in there. The Big Guy is in your corner!

God bless, RB

[Semper Paratus]

A donation of 5,000 to the Parish should grease the skids.

[bonfire]

Your beloved wife? You are divorcing?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

When obtaining an annulment is merely a matter of paying enough money to the Church's "advocates," the entire matter is nothing but a farce.

If you and your wife entered into the marriage in good faith, there is no substantive reason for an annulment. Obtaining one is an exercise in cynicism.

If you're that cynical about the Catholic Church, why are you even bothering?

[Tijeras_Slim]

The DMV works faster than that.

[TheStickman]

Nope. Been civilly married since 1997.

[dsc]

Go to another diocese. It shouldn't take that long to get a yes or no.

[bonfire]

So you were married before and you want the church to recognize that you weren't married before? Am I getting this right?

[TheStickman]

After 18 months into the experience in this diocese we *should* only have 6 months to go (can you believe it?!?!), Starting over in another dicocese we would have to wait 6 months to a year--which is the norm for more diocese in the US.

[Hammerhead]

I don't even know where to begin on this one.

[chit*chat]

When obtaining an annulment is merely a matter of paying enough money to the Church's "advocates," the entire matter is nothing but a farce.

I wholeheartedly agree. Did not go through this process myself as it is rediculous to suggest there really was 'no marriage' and I was not going to pay the Church to dredge up old wounds that had healed.cc

[TheStickman]

>> If you're that cynical about the Catholic Church, why are you even bothering?<<

Your making an assertion with absolutely zero evidence to validate it.

[MineralMan]

I guess I don't understand. You're a Roman Catholic, right? Doesn't that church have some pretty strict teachings regarding marriage?

Now you want them to bypass those teachings and annul your marriage? Is that about it?

Why not just change churches, since the RCC is apparently not for you?

[TheStickman]

>>I guess I don't understand. You're a Roman Catholic, right?<<

I'm converting to Catholicism.

>>Doesn't that church have some pretty strict teachings regarding marriage?<<

It sure does. And rightly so.

>>Now you want them to bypass those teachings and annul your marriage?<<

Nope. I pray God will direct the Tribunal to grant a decree of nullity. What I *want* is for the process to be completed--one way or the other.

>>Why not just change churches, since the RCC is apparently not for you?<<

Another assertion with zero evidence to back it up. If you can only fling accusations based on zip, please move along.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Your making an assertion with absolutely zero evidence to validate it.

The evidence is that you want to annull your marriage merely because it did not work out.

Annullment should be for extreme cases only - like your wife lied about something essential, like she was pregnant by another man, for instance.

If you can obtain an annullment merely because you can't get along, then what's the difference between a marriage in the Catholic Church and one performed by a Justice of the Peace?

[MineralMan]

">>Why not just change churches, since the RCC is apparently not for you?<<

Another assertion with zero evidence to back it up. If you can only fling accusations based on zip, please move along."

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Thanks for the advice. I'll take it under consideration. You did not tell us that you were converting to the RCC, so I had no way of knowing that, did I?

As for the rest, you were married. Now you are remarried. If I understand correctly, for that marriage to be recognized by the RCC, you must obtain an anullment, not one from the state, but from the church.

On what grounds, if I may ask? That your ex-wife was not a Catholic, making it not a real marriage? Well, you were married. Now you're married again. That goes directly against RCC doctrine, as I understand it. Thus my statement that the RCC is not for you, since you've already married a second wife, against the teachings of your adopted church.

I can't see the case here.

[TheStickman]

>> The evidence is that you want to annull your marriage merely because it did not work out.<<

LOL!!!! Feel free to show us all where this *evidence* is.

>> Annullment should be for extreme cases only<<

Agreed. Mine is being tried under Defect of Consent.

>>If you can obtain an annullment merely because you can't get along, then what's the difference between a marriage in the Catholic Church and one performed by a Justice of the Peace?>>

Your question, along with your baseless accusations are nonsensical in the extreme. Have a nice day.