Posted on 01/22/2006 6:26:02 PM PST by Coleus
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Is the pope still Catholic?
Bump...I noticed long ago that Christianity is not at odds with Taoism. But, of course, Yeshua is the Tao.
Is the pope still Catholic? >>
Yes, and this priest isn't. Wait until the Pope finds out.
I saw the words "Jesuit priest" and knew enough. At this point, those two words are practically a contradiction in terms.
Ping to a Jesuit prep school grad (from back when they Jesuits were Catholic, that is).
I saw the words "Jesuit priest" and knew enough. At this point, those two words are practically a contradiction in terms.
Ping to a Jesuit prep school grad (from back when they Jesuits were Catholic, that is).
I noticed that too. Thanks to my Chem Professor. We had LONG talks about theology and philosophy after class... and I recall early on trying to "be at odds with him" but I couldn't find a way to disagree with what he said. Eventually I realized that the two focus on the same common Truth. The difference only lies in the fact that Christ is still my Savior. Taosim has never recognized a need for saving.
budda was not a christian but jesus would have made a good buddist
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You're dead on. I remember in High School we had a "world religions" period in Civics. Zen-Buddhism was charted as a world religion. Then, a year later in college, I read Alan Watts, a "Zen Master" who, very late in his mission, fell away from becoming a minister; one of the first things he says is that Zen is not a religion but simply a way of looking at life.
I wish more people would take the time to understand the differences and similarities of Eastern and Western religions...especially between the Buddha and Christ. There are some very interesting similarities.
Zen does not conflict with anything. That's the idea.
Is he a follower of the Christ or a follower of Nothing?
b'shem Y'shua
Sure you can't adore anything in Zen. You can't ask God for salvation in Zen (there is no God). Instead you must abandon all desires and all needs. I can't see how you can say Zen does not conflict with how Jesus taught us to pray, it is almost the exact opposite.
Of course you can adore Jesus in Zen. You can ask God for salvation in Zen. Don't take it so seriously.
The goal in Buddhism is nothingness (not heaven). There is no God in Buddhism. You don't have to follow God's laws because he may or may not exist. Zen is to get your mind to abandon every desire (including the desire to please God). It isn't prayer, at least not as Christ taught it to us. I don't see anything in what Christ taught of how to practice being a good Christian that is the same as how a Zen master would teach a monk in how to be a good Buddhist.
I believed in reincarnation in a former life, but not any more.
Don't take Zen seriously? What is this: pseudo-Zen? Nonsense. Zen teaches you to abandon all desires, that includes adoration and asking for things. Or are you talking about some new fangled Zen that I am not aware of?
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