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A lot more than one will ever know?

Let's see: if one will never know most of what he's done, then the EFFECTS (the consequences of action) must be mostly unknowable. Otherwise, we would be able to know what he's done. So, if "one will [never] know" the effects, is it possible that those who believe that "a lot more" is being done are merely dreaming it?

If it IS merely a dream, for example, that is, not objectively real but imaginary, in the minds of benevolent dreamers, it has a reality, as it were, but not one in the order of practical consequences. It has a subjective reality, but not an objective reality.

Therefore, since the effects would not be in the objective order but merely in the subjective order of things, for me to "have patience" because "things are shaping up," I would have to be waiting for my own subjective reality to change and catch up with the "shaping up" that is happening in the minds of some other, benevolent dreamers; like, perhaps, you.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, Coleus, but I have no intention of sitting back and dreaming, and allowing my mind to artificially construct a fantasy of utopian substance. I have no desire to engage in such "nowhere" musings.

In case you didn't know, "utopia" means "nowhere."

On a personal note, your sentences would evoke more credibility if you were to choose the UPPER CASE for the first letter of same.

On a personal note, your sentences would evoke more credibility if you were to choose the UPPER CASE for the first letter of same. >>

lol, some freepers can be anal retentive when it comes to punctuation, etc., LOL, thanks for the laugh, you made my day. since the fr is both recreation for me and important for certain pro life and activism issues, i dont' concern myself with grammar or spell check or worry about people like you who blemish the name of a saint. a response on a fr thread is just that a response on an internet bulletin board--it is not a phd dissertation. this is recreation, i will do whatever i want in accordance with the fr tos, and say what ever i want anyway i want. and, just remember who started the one and true catholic church and that it was He who made it that way with mere mortals in charge, remember, we all know the ending. try to keep the faith and act like a catholic and not be so worrisome and judgmental.

Maybe the whole fr is just a dream, are we really here, is the fr really here? Boo!