[MineralMan]

"That will be difficult since this massacre was carried out by Mormons.

What do you want us to say? They were all peace loving, Christians?"

Yes, the massacre had Mormons involved in it. There are a lot of bad things that happen that have members of groups involved. There are some very interesting cases involving American Indians, where Christians were involved. That is not my point.

No current member of the LDS church was involved. Mormons get bashed here on FR quite frequently, and I was trying to caution people not to blame current Mormons for historical events they were not involved in.

Every group has some skeletons in its closet. Christians are not exempt from that statement, yet bashing Christians for actions taken by some Christians in the past is not proper.

[colorcountry]

It is Modern day Mormons who are still looking to put the blame on John D. Lee and him almost exclusively, even though the evidence shows him as 4TH in command. Evidence of victims being shot in the face at point blank range also exclude him from being the only participant. He was deemed responsible because of his title of Indian Farmer - he was the Church's contact for the local Indian tribes. It has been determined that the Indians were not responsible, and perhaps not even involved.

From the same article I previously mentioned:

The role of John D. Lee, a church leader who eventually was executed for his role in the murders, "grew in our minds as our research went forward," Walker said, noting Lee was "a man of action, but far too certain of himself."
"He deceived others by first deceiving himself. He had kaleidoscopic and extreme drives, the result perhaps of the horrid abuse he had experienced in childhood. By his own admission, sex for him was an almost uncontrollable torrent. Yet, notwithstanding these flaws and perhaps in part because of them, there were offsetting virtues, too," including "generosity, piety and even religious force."
Though he had chances to escape his execution, "he made no attempt to do so. Lee had enough humanity for all of us."

Lee was the only one tried for the crime, the only one convicted. By smearing Lee again...creating the same scapegoat that they had originally, it once again causes his family to bear the burden of what was the Church's action. I know, I am his descendant...we want his image restored...he was following orders as a military command.

He was not innocent and he paid with his life. His descendants have paid for his crime and that of every other member involved for over 150 years. It's time the Church came clean.

[Bear_Slayer]

Every group has some skeletons in its closet. Christians are not exempt from that statement, yet bashing Christians for actions taken by some Christians in the past is not proper

"Christianity is a religion hatched in hell." -Brigham Young

"The Christian's god is the Mormon's devil." - Brigham Young

Since when did the Mormon church become Christian?

[rwfromkansas]

MM, the Mormons have tried to cover up this chapter of their history.

I have a few Mormon friends. Great people. But, that does not change the fact that their religion is in error, nor does it change their history as a people.