Posted on 02/12/2006 9:37:11 PM PST by TBP
No.
Good article. Strange, but good.
No, for then Consciousness would be finite, locked within the boundries of a word, Quantum.
Everything is.
Input, process, output. The logic. It would seem that the quantum is the output of the process. The process would include a list of variables to choose from, then making the choices one decision at a time, then a sequential mixing or manipulation of those variables (data), which produces a particular output which would exist as discrete forms of solidness in the quantum. Or actually is the quantum -- --the product, the output, the creation.
So consciousness must be the programmer. The intelligence that wants to create a product, or a situation.
(I think too many people are nothing but data, things to be processed and manipulated in someone else's programs -- programs written by a lesser and not so benign intelligence.)
Many ways to apply the logic here, TBP. Making my synapses fire at the quantum level.
As above, so below. The 'above' is the intelligence where the program is written, the 'below' is the quantum universe, the product.
Let me offer this model: Perhaps the firing synapses of the intelligence bump into the membrane surrounding the quantum and cause all those little superstrings in the potential to jump around -- which become data points in a micro-program, the output of which become data points, parameters passed to the macro-program, all working in concert to provide a universe.
Now why the universe was created is another topic. I'll think about that.
The computer model of mind is similar to the pre-computer model of afferent-efferent nerves plus memory. We still don't know how the will can cause an efferent nerve to fire. Or at least I don't know. The radio model rather than the computer model seems to apply to the thesis of this article.
Lemme re-word that. Now why the universe is continually created (or re-created) is another topic. I'll think about that.
Quondam Phone.
Consciousness is analog.
How about, the intensification of desire (a focal point of consciousness existing outside of quantum) causes mini-orgasms (in a manner of speaking) for the production and release of radio signals. Signals which have their origin outside of the quantum, but can penetrate the membrane and excite the potential -- like sperm penetrating the egg.
Concerning the activity of intense desire, it could be in the same realm or comparable to the mechanics of having a wet-dream and experiencing mental orgasm (release) but the physical body was in no way effected, responsive, or involved. (But you reach for a cigarette anyway. Heh.)
I hope I'm understanding your reference to radio here. I'm not familiar with it.
As the article says, that consciousness that Goswami describes as "the ground of all being" is both teh programmer and the program. It is the observer and the observed.
As above, so below. The 'above' is the intelligence where the program is written, the 'below' is the quantum universe, the product.
As within, so without. This is how a quantum Universse works. The observer and the observed, the programmer and the program, the above and the below, the internal and the external are aspects of the same quantum wave of the All-in-All.
Let me offer this model: Perhaps the firing synapses of the intelligence bump into the membrane surrounding the quantum and cause all those little superstrings in the potential to jump around -- which become data points in a micro-program, the output of which become data points, parameters passed to the macro-program, all working in concert to provide a universe.
And we do the same thing with our patterns of thought, creating our Universe by the neural connections we create in our brains with our thought.
Now why the universe was created is another topic. I'll think about that.
The Universe continues ot be created anew every moment. "Behold, I make all things new again."
Quantum is an aspect, a way of operating. It does not necessarily make it finite.
As an aspect, a way of operating Quantum is thus defined, placing Conciousness within boundries--as does your opinion :>
Yes, I corrected myself in # 8.
"As within, so without. . . . "
Well, of course everything has to exist concurrently in the mind of the creator. In, out, above, below, up, down, are relative to your reference point.
But the quantum is maya in the mind of the creator, right? As our dreams are maya. So as our intelligence exists in a state non-connected to our dreams when we are not dreaming, can I say so must the Creator intelligence exist in a state non-connected to the universe in any physical way, but only through inversion, when the dream becomes the dreamer? The transferrence occurs when the quantum gates are stormed, perhaps, as you say, continually. Well, at least in Planck time, for I don't think motion is smooth, but only has the appearance of smoothness because of the after-image effect. Similar to a film strip which creates the illusion of smooth motion, the after-images in the brain blend smoothly with the next incoming static scene (frame).
The blank spots seperating the images on the film could correspond to Planck time, the see-don't see, on-off blink. If so, then things in motion can only be observed because of the blank part separating the images on the film, the visual on-off shutter in our brain which holds the after-image of the previous scene (location), otherwise everything would be a blur.
To apply that analogy, could it be there is no such thing as motion, but only a re-locating of static three dimensional objects (discrete blocks of energy in motion at the micro level) -- disappearing and re-appearing continually in different three directional time/space coordinates in Planck time along a plane (direction) concordant to our expectations and will?
Yeah, I know I'm stretching, but just trying to draw models. I'm not sure I understand what I'm saying here. Things start getting fuzzy at the 'ring-pass-not.' 0:)
The radio model is less well-known than the computer model that assails us on all sides like car ads, but the computer is older than the radio so maybe the radio model will catch up eventually. The question, which has a lot of presupposition built in, is: where or what is the mind? and how does it interact with the body? If the mind is an electric field, could not a mass of hydrogen gas have a mind? and what is the difference between the electric mindfield in the vicinity of the brain and the electric field around a radio transmitter? That's more than one question, bujt maybe somewhere in there is a filetab where the subject can be opened up properly.
What the heck is a RScP?
Nossir.
All things in the univers are essentially popsicles.
Some say the entire world is recreated thirty times a second. Maybe thirty is a low number. In any case the image our mind has of the world may be recreated thirty times a second whether or not the mind creates the world or merely perceives it.
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