Is There Life After Death? An Emminent International Cardiologist Believes He Can PROVE IT!

Click Press ^ | 2-20-06

[chesley]

Where is that? I've read it through several times, and never saw it. I'd love to look at that verse. Thansk.

[blue-duncan]

"Sheesh, what a horrible thought."

Shakespeare said it a long time ago:

"The evil that men do lives after them. The good is often interred with their bones."

Julius Caesar

[chesley]

yeah, but credit card debt collectors?? That would make heaven into hell right spiffy.

In fact, I got turned over to a debt collection agency late last year. The notice they sent me was the first I had ever heard of the debt. They couldn't tell me the details of why I supposedly owed money. They said they'd let the creditor know that I disputed the debt. Never heard from them, so I figured it had been straightened out. Wrong!! Got another notice from them. The creditor had never called them back.

So I called the creditor, and they wouldn't talk to me. Said that debt had been turned over to a collection agency, and transferred me immediately. Then I got word from the collection agency that my dispute had been denied.

Talk about a nightmare. The amount of money wasn't important, only about $150. I could afford to pay it, but nobody would tell me what I was supposed to have gotten for my money. Heck if I was going to pay something I didn't owe.

I finally got it straightened out though. Certified mail to the President of the company, return receipt requested, personal & confidential. I've tried it 4 or 5 times in my life in disputes with companies who think they are my creditors, and it has never failed to get the problem resolved to my satisfaction. And it didn't this time, either.

Turns out, I bought a service from a computer company. It got entered in their records as a 'part', and I hadn't returned the used 'part', so they charged me for it. Not that I understand why I should have been supposed to return the part, if I had bought it, but that's neither here nor there. There wasn't a part to return.

A little click on a button in an office somewhere in California, and my problem went away. But it took a lot of effort to get that button to click.

And that's why I down on collection agencies this month. In April I'll be down on the IRS. Come to think of it, I got a better deal from the collection agency than from the IRS.

[blue-duncan]

I don't want to cause you any more misery but the IRS is also trying to find out if there is life after death and if it is true that you really can't take it with you when you cross over.

[chesley]

LOL! THey would if they could.

Makes you think of blood-sucking vampires, doesn't it?

[spankalib]

Since you brought up the Bible....

....the dead know not anything,....(their) memory is forgotten. Ecclesiastes 9:5

there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave.... Ecclesiastes 9:10

"Life after death" is found ....when? Bible answer; when Jesus comes back....then the dead in Christ will rise, then we (who are alive to witness his coming, and who are also "in Christ") will be caught up together with them....1 Thessalonians 4:13 thru 18.

The dead who are not "in Christ" remain in their state of 'dreamless sleep', as it were, until the final judgement.

In the Bible, death = 'dreamless sleep', and the wages of sin = death.

[Blind Eye Jones]

Heidegger said "where words break off no thing may be" -- that beyond signs independent of the speakers, beyond text, narrative, or discourse, there is nothing. And I guess if a bear shits in the forest and there is nobody around to smell it, or write a post modern hermetic text about it or... oh, well, never mind!

"The inability to judge claims of truth bleeds over (sometimes literally!) into the inability to judge claims of value."

Claims of value are not intractable as claims of "good and evil." Values are mushy and imaginative and lead to conflict resolution, whereas "good and evil" lead to war. One problem with Islam is that it doesn't want to become secularized as Christianity and, therefore, is clinging to its dark pristine past. There has been no reformation with Islam, no persons equivalent to a Luther or Calvin, and it abhors the modern secular "evil" world. But in North America the problem has been more with the post modern -- especially the post modern idea of value creation in the shadow of the 'death of God.' One would think that experience alone should lead to the urgent need to discover the "truth," should lead to an exploration of what the past thought about the human condition, rather than stating there is no "truth" and dismissing the past as archaic, racist and sexist. The post modern lens is really obscurant and distorted, reflecting more its viewers own discontent with the present world than anything else. And the university, as the repository of greatness from the past, should be protected from such a skewed morbid perspective. Thankfully, POMO has become institutionalized and things have moved on: I hear the fashionable trend is over and is now mostly a footnote of the past.

"I hope your music-making goes well"

Well, music has great charms and (at the age of 51) I'm playing guitar more that ever. I'm getting into shredding and playing everything I thought extremely difficult. Creation wise, I'm in hibernation mode but I'm looking to create something by the end of spring. I was thinking of an opera about Judas Iscariot (a love triangle involving Mary and Jesus) where Mary falls for Jesus because he loves her "soul." Judas betrays Jesus out of jealousy just to get Mary which, obviously, doesn't work. Judas ends up in Hell but Jesus (according to the Bible) also goes to Hell before ascending to heaven. Jesus died really confused on the cross and Judas helps him out and becomes redeemed... not your Jesus Christ Super Star but a happy ending, nevertheless!

Anything new with you?

[snarks_when_bored]

I was thinking of an opera about Judas Iscariot (a love triangle involving Mary and Jesus) where Mary falls for Jesus because he loves her "soul." Judas betrays Jesus out of jealousy just to get Mary which, obviously, doesn't work. Judas ends up in Hell but Jesus (according to the Bible) also goes to Hell before ascending to heaven. Jesus died really confused on the cross and Judas helps him out and becomes redeemed... not your Jesus Christ Super Star but a happy ending, nevertheless!

You'd be taking your life into your own hands if you did that. You know how those Christians react when one does or says anything about their religion that they find offensive.

Oh, wait...

Anything new with you?

My life, such as it is, is ever the same. You wouldn't know it from my FR postings, but I don't get out much (laugh). I don't play guitar much anymore, though: my memory of how I used to play—with a moderate degree of skill—dampens my enthusiasm for playing now.