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Priests plan jumble sales to help save Nazi church for posterity
The Times ^ | March 10, 2006 | The Times

Posted on 03/10/2006 10:18:13 PM PST by Antioch

A GROUP of German priests and parishioners have begun a politically sensitive fundraising campaign to save the country’s last Nazi-era church. The Martin Luther Memorial Church in Berlin has embarrassed the authorities for six decades.

The image of a Nazi storm trooper side by side with Jesus Christ has been carved into the pulpit, the entrance is lit by a chandelier in the shape of an iron cross and the organ was used to stir the spirits at a torch-lit Nuremberg rally.

Throughout the church, consecrated in 1933, there are bare patches where swastikas, illegal since the end of the war, have been ripped out. “There was a bust of Adolf Hitler in the nave,” Isolde Boehm, dean of the church, said. “A carved face of Hitler has been replaced by one of Martin Luther. There is even a rumour that the church was supposed to be called the Adolf Hitler Church.”

The Protestant church — smelling of damp and spine-chillingly cold — has been closed for the past year because tiles were falling off the tower. The priests — Frau Boehm and the Reverend Malte Jungnickel — have applied to have the church declared a listed building and are lobbying the Government to come up with €3 million (£2 million) to fund the restoration. “There is no other church in Germany that is so obviously fascist-designed,” said Ilse Klein, a parish councillor and local historian. Fundraising activities to preserve this fascist monument are likely to include bring-and-buy sales and sponsored runs. “Look at the face of Christ on the cross,” Herr Jungnickel said. “It is the face of a victorious Aryan, with a bodybuilder’s frame, not the suffering Jesus.”

The exterior of the church was designed in the Bauhaus style in 1929, before the Nazis came to power. The problem, however, lies with the interior: the big fascist-style sweep of the nave and the Nazi iconography carved into every niche. “So far, thank God, the neo-Nazis have not discovered the church as a place of pilgrimage,” Frau Boehm said. The ethical dilemma of preserving Nazi iconography has been gripping German art critics. Debate has also been raging as to how much from the Nazi era should be cleared away or allowed to stay.

The World Cup final this summer will be played in the Berlin stadium designed for the 1936 Olympics. Part of the German Foreign Ministry used to be the Nazi central bank, while the Finance Ministry served as Hermann Goering’s air force headquarters with a roof so broad that he could land aircraft on it. A Nazi church, however, is even more politically sensitive: it highlights how clearly the Protestant Church aligned itself to Hitler.

In 1932 Nazis were encouraged to become “German Christians” and joined their local parishes to undermine the Church’s power to resist the dictatorship. By the mid-1930s, two thirds of the parish of Martin Luther Memorial were Nazi Party members. They baptised their babies in a wooden font, which still bears the image of a brown-shirted storm trooper, and they married to music played by an organ that helped to create the dark atmosphere of the Nuremberg rallies. Until 1942 bells embossed with the swastika called the Nazi faithful to church on Sundays. Then the bells were melted down and made into cannon.

But Max Kurzreiter, the local priest in the 1930s, also gave shelter to members of the dissident anti-Nazi Confessional Church. One prominent anti-Nazi believer, the writer Jochen Klepper, married a Jewish convert at the church in 1938. “That required a great deal of courage from the priest,” Herr Jungnickel said.

Klepper, his wife and one of his daughters killed themselves in December 1942. “The problem we will always have with this unique church is that whenever we stand in the pulpit and say something, we have to preach against our surroundings; that’s incredibly hard,” Frau Boehm said. “Somehow we have to find a way of preserving the building, keeping its interior as a warning, but also supplement it with a documentation centre explaining the complicated history of the church in the Third Reich.”

BAD FAITH

-In 1932 the “German Christians”, a group of Protestant National Socialists, was founded.

-In 1933 Hitler forced regional Protestant churches to merge into the Protestant Reich Church which, based on Nazi ideas of “positive Christianity”, portrayed Jesus as an “Aryan” and eliminated the Old Testament.

-During the war Alfred Rosenberg conceived a new National Reich Church which would replace the Bible with Mein Kampf.

-10,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses were arrested; 2,500 died in camps.


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: berlin; church; hitler; protestant

1 posted on 03/10/2006 10:18:20 PM PST by Antioch
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To: Antioch
“So far, thank God, the neo-Nazis have not discovered the church as a place of pilgrimage,”

betcha they do NOW...

2 posted on 03/10/2006 10:25:47 PM PST by Old Sarge (My vigor to fight has been renewed.)
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To: Antioch
The image of a Nazi storm trooper side by side with Jesus Christ has been carved into the pulpit, the entrance is lit by a chandelier in the shape of an iron cross and the organ was used to stir the spirits at a torch-lit Nuremberg rally.

This image offends me. Highly. I am going to commence rioting at 3:00 pm tomorrow. German embassy's going down.

3 posted on 03/10/2006 10:30:05 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Old Sarge; Kolokotronis; NYer
Ping for your respective lists.

For the life of me I can not think of the word I am looking for. But there is a Hebrew term for a place that is cursed and evil. Jews often use that word to describe Auschwitz. Not for a million dollars would I set foot inside that place. The hair on the back of my neck is standing up just thinking about it. Holding Christian services there is beyond anything I could imagine. The building should be preserved I suppose as an historically important landmark. But use it as a church? Thats beyond revolting. Anyone got a good ritual exorcism for a building?
4 posted on 03/10/2006 10:49:25 PM PST by jecIIny (You faithful, let us pray for the Catechumens! Lord Have Mercy)
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To: jecIIny

I keep finding the word, "Shoah", referring to the Nazi genocide seperate and apart from all others. But that's probably not the one you're looking for...


5 posted on 03/10/2006 11:08:54 PM PST by Old Sarge (My vigor to fight has been renewed.)
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To: Antioch

Sounds wierd. Does anybody have any pix?


6 posted on 03/11/2006 12:13:52 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Antioch
"The priests — Frau Boehm and the Reverend Malte Jungnickel"

Father Frau?? Why did the Times use the word "priests"?

7 posted on 03/11/2006 1:09:17 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: Nihil Obstat; Antioch
The priests — Frau Boehm and the Reverend Malte Jungnickel"

Father Frau?? Why did the Times use the word "priests"?

Frau Blucher?


8 posted on 03/11/2006 1:16:54 PM PST by kstewskis (We have snow and rain in AZ!!!!!)
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To: kstewskis

ssshh, you're going to scare the horses.


9 posted on 03/11/2006 1:20:14 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: Antioch

Sounds like an opportunity for those three yahoos they picked up for torching the Baptist churches down south. Send them to Germany.


10 posted on 03/11/2006 1:33:05 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: Antioch
What an interesting piece of history.
11 posted on 03/11/2006 1:36:49 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: kstewskis

"Wheeheeeheeehheeeeehheeeeeeeeee."


12 posted on 03/11/2006 3:11:24 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Antioch

***The image of a Nazi storm trooper side by side with Jesus Christ has been carved into the pulpit, the entrance is lit by a chandelier in the shape of an iron cross and the organ was used to stir the spirits at a torch-lit Nuremberg rally.***

When Antiocus Epiphanies captured the Temple in Jerusalem he offered up a pig on the alter, and set up a statue refered to as, "the abomination of desolation".
Upon recapture by the Jews, the statue was removed and the alter torn down but because there was no prophet to tell them what to do with it, they stored the stones in a room till a future prophet would come to tell them what to do with it.

Rip out the Nazi emblems and send them to the US Army to store with the rest of the Nazi art still in posession of the US Army but hidden away.


13 posted on 03/11/2006 3:19:53 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Islam, the religion of the criminally insane.)
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To: Antioch
There is even a rumour that the church was supposed to be called the Adolf Hitler Church.

Ironic since Hitler was raised Catholic and was not a Lutheran - and he hated Christianity in general.

14 posted on 03/26/2007 1:09:09 PM PDT by Longinus ("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
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To: jecIIny; Old Sarge; Kolokotronis; NYer
For the life of me I can not think of the word I am looking for. But there is a Hebrew term for a place that is cursed and evil. Jews often use that word to describe Auschwitz. Not for a million dollars would I set foot inside that place. The hair on the back of my neck is standing up just thinking about it. Holding Christian services there is beyond anything I could imagine. The building should be preserved I suppose as an historically important landmark. But use it as a church? Thats beyond revolting. Anyone got a good ritual exorcism for a building?

COnverting places of evil into places of for good worship is an old Christian specialty - it shows the power of Christ over evil.

The Roman Coliseum where Christians were martyred and others were killed in horrible ways was made into a Christian place of worship. Of course the Orthodox and Catholics would have gutted the place and replaced the iconography.

15 posted on 03/26/2007 1:26:02 PM PDT by Longinus ("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
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To: Longinus; jecIIny; Old Sarge; NYer

"Of course the Orthodox and Catholics would have gutted the place and replaced the iconography."

In Greece we did that with a number of pagan temples, the Parthenon, the temple of Hephaestus, various sites at Olympia and Epidauros. Of course we have also used mosques, for warehouses and porn movie theaters.


16 posted on 03/26/2007 3:56:13 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

I don't know about that - I have seen mosques converted into tourist shops and museums.


17 posted on 03/27/2007 7:19:54 AM PDT by Longinus ("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
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To: jecIIny
Anyone got a good ritual exorcism for a building?

Knock the building down, remove the debris, and start over or make a public park on the site.

18 posted on 03/27/2007 7:28:23 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.
The outside of the building was pre Nazi so the interior is the problem not the exterior.

Gut the building, donate the Nazi stuff to a museum and refurbish the inside.

19 posted on 03/27/2007 7:39:04 AM PDT by Longinus ("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
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