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Eucharistic Miracle in Dallas? (Diocese conducting further studies)
Spirit Daily ^ | March 22, 2006 | Various

Posted on 03/22/2006 6:39:08 AM PST by NYer

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To: murphE

I thought this strange also, that a whole host would be placed in a glass of water to dissolve. Very odd; why wouldn't the priest simply consume it?

And why did the boy spit it out (in the bathroom!)? More evidence of poor catechesis IMHO.

BTW - what a great priest you describe.


21 posted on 03/22/2006 8:01:32 AM PST by jtal
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To: jtal

I believe it was because the Host came up with the boy's vomit. Would you eat it then?


22 posted on 03/22/2006 8:05:25 AM PST by Romish_Papist (St. Jude, pray for my lost cause. St. Rita, pray for my impossible situation.)
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To: NYer
That had been vomited by the boy.

So? It was intact not digested.

A defiled Host that cannot be consumed

It seems "cannot" is the keyword. Surely it was not impossible for the priest to consume the host, although it would most likely have been unpleasant.

23 posted on 03/22/2006 8:08:15 AM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: jtal
BTW - what a great priest you describe.

Yes he is. We were very blessed to have him. He is in Phoenix, AZ.

24 posted on 03/22/2006 8:11:52 AM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
The eucharistic host becomes flesh and blood everytime.

And soul and divinity.

But...

Typically, the host retains the accidents of bread.

So, when something like this happens, it is worth noting.

25 posted on 03/22/2006 8:16:07 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: NYer

Wow!

Of course the substance of the Host turns to Christ's literal Flesh every time the mass is celebrated, but to see its accidents transformed as well...

I eagerly await the outcome of the diocesan investigation. Thanks for the heads-up.


26 posted on 03/22/2006 8:41:53 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: NYer

Wow!

Of course the substance of the Host turns to Christ's literal Flesh every time the mass is celebrated, but to see its accidents transformed as well...

I eagerly await the outcome of the diocesan investigation. Thanks for the heads-up.


27 posted on 03/22/2006 8:41:54 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: NYer
Some years ago (early 1990s) a priest in a neighboring parish had some surplus hosts to dispose of. As noted in previous posts, the proper procedure is to dissolve them in water, so they are no long "hosts," then dispose of them in a reverent manner. This priest did indeed place the hosts in a glass of water, then forgot about them. Later, when the water had dried up, he found a reddish crust around the inside of the glass.

Neither the priest nor I have any idea what the crust was. Blood? Iron in the water? Something else? At the meeting I attended, the priest simply stated the sequence of events with no interpretation. He stated further that the Bishop had warned him not to "start a cult."

The glass, with the material still in it, was taken (confiscated?) by a Chancery official "to be studied." In all the years since then, there has been no further news. I suspect that the glass ended up in the Church's equivalent of that warehouse portrayed in the last scene of the first Indiana Jones movie.

My immediate reaction, on hearing of the event, was that God wouldn't embarrass our liberal Bishop by performing a Euchararistic Miracle in this Diocese. I've seen or heard nothing since then to change my mind.

Having said that, I do recognize that occasionally God does perform a Eucharistic Miracle just to reassure us of what we already belive regarding the Real Presence.

28 posted on 03/22/2006 8:55:00 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: NYer

I don't understand.

I thought the Eucharist always was the actual blood and skin of Christ.


29 posted on 03/22/2006 10:15:20 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind
I thought the Eucharist always was the actual blood and skin of Christ.

It is; but typically, the host retains the accidents of bread.

30 posted on 03/22/2006 10:58:53 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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Good thread, good article!


31 posted on 03/22/2006 11:19:41 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: murphE
That had been vomited by the boy.

So? It was intact not digested.

There is no way that Host was intact if the boy vomited it. For it to remain intact he would have had to spit it out immediately. Everyone who receives Holy Communion knows the Eucharist begins to disintegrate as soon as it comes into contact with saliva. A fragile Host could not make it down and back up the throat intact.

This story doesn't add up.

32 posted on 03/22/2006 12:16:10 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: murphE
When our chapel was broken into a few years ago, the tabernacle was ripped from the altar. The Consecrated Hosts that had been within were found desecrated outside in the mud. My priest got down on his hands and knees in the mud and consumed each Host and particle, then he consecrated the ground.

You attend that chapel? I didn't know that. It was very sad that such a beautiful altar was destroyed. Only demonic activity could do such a thing.

33 posted on 03/22/2006 12:23:37 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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The boy who originally consumed the Blessed Sacrament, vomited it in a trach can. The priest put the Host into water to disove it.

I can't say I blame him for not wanting to consume the regurgitated Blessed Sacrament.


34 posted on 03/22/2006 12:29:02 PM PST by It's me
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To: NYer

I'm sorry, I love my Catholic brethren but this has all the hallmarks of, at best, sensationalism and, at worst, "God as a science project exhibit." Either is wrong.


35 posted on 03/22/2006 12:37:22 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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You attend that chapel? I didn't know that. It was very sad that such a beautiful altar was destroyed. Only demonic activity could do such a thing.

Yes, I do. Fr. Burfitt is the name of the priest, he is in Phoenix now. He is the first traditional priest that I had ever met, and had ever had as a confessor. He made quite an impression. The altar was repaired, it was originally from a Polish Church in upstate NY that they had rescued from being wreckovated.

The upside of the desecration was that the local TV news covered the story. Many people who did not even know the chapel existed saw Fr. Burfitt saying a TLM outside on TV, with the parishioners in their Sunday dress kneeling on the ground. From what I was told, after that the size of the parish doubled.

36 posted on 03/22/2006 1:14:51 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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From what I was told, after that the size of the parish doubled.

God always brings good from the bad.

37 posted on 03/22/2006 1:18:36 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: It's me
The boy who originally consumed the Blessed Sacrament, vomited it in a trach can. The priest put the Host into water to disove it.

I can't say I blame him for not wanting to consume the regurgitated Blessed Sacrament.

Priests have gone into burning churches to prevent The Most Blessed Sacrament from being desecrated. Would have consuming the host been unpleasant? No doubt, but I imagine being spat upon, scourged, crowned with thorns, and nailed to a cross was no picnic either.

38 posted on 03/22/2006 1:22:10 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Pyro7480
God always brings good from the bad.

Yes, He does indeed. Deo Gratias! =D

39 posted on 03/22/2006 1:23:16 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
There is no way that Host was intact if the boy vomited it. For it to remain intact he would have had to spit it out immediately

I personally cannot fathom anyone swallowing a host whole without choking.

40 posted on 03/22/2006 1:26:02 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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