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Posted on 04/25/2006 6:19:21 PM PDT by Full Court
Bro. Cloud wrote this in response to someone who claimed he was negative.
"As for me being a healthy Christian and feeding solely on negativity, you must be right, of course. I don't do anything at all other than sit around thinking and writing negativism 24 hours a day. I never talk and laugh with my sweet Christian wife. I never take her out on dates. When my boys were teenagers, I didn’t take them to baseball and basketball games or shooting guns or salmon fishing or snow boarding and skiing or playing Rook or anything at all. I don’t play with my granddaughter. I don’t enjoy going to the assembly to sing praises to God and hear the Word of God preached and to fellowship with the saints. I don’t have friends all over the world that I enjoy spending time with. I don’t have sweet times of prayer every day with the Lord. I don’t spend at a couple of hours every day answering e-mails from people who seek my help. I didn’t write a Bible Encyclopedia to bless and edify God’s people. I didn’t write a large book explaining difficult things in the Bible. I didn’t write a joke book to make the hearts of God’s people merry. I didn’t write a 15-volume Bible school course to help God’s people become better grounded in the Word of God. I didn’t start a Bible translation project which resulted in the creation of a sound New Testament in one of the Asian languages. I haven’t spent fourteen years in South Asia seeing souls won to Christ and starting sound New Testament churches.
All of these things must be the figment of my imagination, because I am a fundamentalist and everyone knows that fundamentalists are totally unhealthy, negative people."
If he's working to win the lost for Christ, that's wonderful.
When I read your opening lines, the first Verse that came to mind was 1 Peter 3 15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
I think that means what it says, i.e.-Be ready to tell your brother why you believe the way you do. Not to quickly tear down your brothers' Church because you read God's Word differently.
I would say that he is a classic Independent Baptist.
Ah I think I see now, jealousy rears it's head. This man hasn't gotten the recognition he thinks he deserves.
Saying that Hell isn't real is a denial of what Jesus said.
Why is it ok with you if Billy Graham denies the words of Jesus Christ, but it is not ok with you if Missionary David Cloud reports the heresies that Billy Graham preaches?
And for those of us not familiar with them, "classic" or otherwise, what are their distinct beliefs/theology?
Jealous?
Bro. Cloud?
You obviously have no clue!!!
He is however FAITHFUL to Jesus Christ, and the truth of the Bible, unlike Graham, who never met a heresy he wouldn't embrace.
He is also a missionary to Nepal, has been there many years.
Why would you post this hateful screed? Billy Graham is a wonderful man and a faithful servant of the Lord. You should be ashamed.
Denying the words of Jesus...? He gave his view of what hell is. We all have an idea of what hell is until we see it we won't know who was right now will we.
Okaaayyy, I see where this is going. Let's try this from another angle....
As a missionary in Nepal, what does he teach the Nepalese people to believe? Does he just hand out these "Billy Graham's Doctrinal Errors tracts" to them, or is there more to it than that?
Bro. Cloud sounds bitter.
What is hateful about it?
Have you found something in the article that is untrue?
Do you personally support Graham's teaching of false doctrines?
Not dueling extracted verses again.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Judge not that ye shall not be judged.
Paul tells us to judge things, not cast judgement on people.
Oh, let's pick two more and see what we get:
And Judas went and hanged himself.
Go ye and do likewise.
That verse from him was nothing but bragging. He thinks highly of himself and rips a man who has brought more people of every nation to Jesus.
That would be a good start towards understanding his views. Thanks for locating it for me.
One difference between Bro. Cloud and Billy Graham is that Billy goes around the world in private jets, living a life of luxury.
He also has all of his books ghostwritten, one by famous homosexual Mel White.
Bro. Cloud lives among the people of Nepal, and certainly writes all of his own books, does not preach false doctrines or embrace homosexuals as Graham does.
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