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Billy Graham's Disobedience to the Word of God
Way of Life ^ | Not sure | David Cloud

Posted on 04/25/2006 6:19:21 PM PDT by Full Court

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To: Full Court
"Saying that Hell isn't real is a denial of what Jesus said. Why is it ok with you if Billy Graham denies the words of Jesus Christ, but it is not ok with you if Missionary David Cloud reports the heresies that Billy Graham preaches?"

If what you say is so, then that is news to me.
The last time I heard Billy Graham tell Jesus' parable of the rich man and Lazarus, Hell seemed like a real place to me.

61 posted on 04/25/2006 7:22:31 PM PDT by labette (Why do you seek the living among the dead?)
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To: Alex Murphy

He only preaches about things like this to people who are already believers.

There wouldn't be any reason for the unsaved to be taught what errors to watch out for.


63 posted on 04/25/2006 7:25:07 PM PDT by Full Court (Isaiah 45:6  That they may know)
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To: Full Court; Religion Moderator

All I asked was "Is this really necessary?" I withheld my editorial opinion which is not flattering.

I would have asked the same question, regardless of the identify of the thread poster.


64 posted on 04/25/2006 7:26:48 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: NonLinear; SouthernFreebird
Paul tells us to judge things, not cast judgement on people.

If someone is preaching false doctrine, they are to be exposed.

2 Timothy 4:1  ¶I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

65 posted on 04/25/2006 7:26:48 PM PDT by Full Court (Isaiah 45:6  That they may know)
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To: Full Court

#5. He doesn't think Theology is important {any more}.

Well neither do I. Most theology study is some prof or other trying as hard as they can to find some new, innovative way of looking at the Bible.

It should be banned at seminaries, and any Christian who never reads a single theology book will be a better person for it.


As far as the {anymore} part -- look he's 80 years old and has given his whole live for the Lord. He could WRITE the book, if he wanted, or if he thought it was important -- Which it isn't.


66 posted on 04/25/2006 7:27:00 PM PDT by 9999lakes
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To: Alex Murphy

He is really a very nice person.
:-)


67 posted on 04/25/2006 7:27:20 PM PDT by Full Court (Isaiah 45:6  That they may know)
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To: Full Court

1-3 & 6-10 --- I don't beleive a word of it.


68 posted on 04/25/2006 7:28:28 PM PDT by 9999lakes
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This toxic thread is being restored so that the allegations can be discussed. There will be zero tolerance for personal attacks – any personal remark about another Freeper is apt to result in a time-out.
70 posted on 04/25/2006 8:48:02 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Full Court

IMHO, when the author does one-millionth what Billy has done to spread the gospel, I might give him a bit of credibility. Might.


71 posted on 04/25/2006 9:09:45 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Full Court

AND WORST OF ALL, BILLY GRAHAM HAS HIS CAPS LOCK STUCK!!


72 posted on 04/25/2006 9:13:46 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Religion Moderator

Thanks so much. I believe that it is very important for Christians to be able to speak the truth.

I am just wondering why you are calling it toxic?

Is it against some FR rule or something that I need to know about? Please advise.


73 posted on 04/25/2006 9:13:49 PM PDT by Full Court (Isaiah 45:6  That they may know)
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To: D-fendr

I know Bro. Cloud and his manner of living. He lives in Nepal where he and his wife have been missionaries for over 15 years.

He truly loves the Lord and loves the truth. He has no quarrel with Graham personally, he only wishes that he would adhere to the truths of Scripture.


74 posted on 04/25/2006 9:15:55 PM PDT by Full Court (Isaiah 45:6  That they may know)
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To: SouthernFreebird
We all have an idea of what hell is until we see it we won't know who was right now will we.

But isn't Jesus right?

75 posted on 04/25/2006 9:16:46 PM PDT by Full Court (Isaiah 45:6  That they may know)
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To: 9999lakes

"One is sometimes glad not to be a great theologian ; one might so easily mistake it for being a good Christian."

C.S. Lewis


76 posted on 04/25/2006 9:17:39 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: 4U2OUI

I promise you, Bro. CLoud is not a bitter person. His only beef is that people who claim to preach the Gospel then water it down and change it for different audiences.

I don't believe that should be done. Do you?

He's really a great guy. He's been a missionary to Nepal for over 15 years now, started churches there, and a Bible college.


77 posted on 04/25/2006 9:18:38 PM PDT by Full Court (Isaiah 45:6  That they may know)
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To: Full Court
A toxic thread is a post which ridicules a person or deity who is deeply respected by other posters. The discussion is "poisoned" from the beginning.

As long as the posters discuss the issues the thread is useful - but if the discussion turns personal - even slightly - it will not be tolerated.

78 posted on 04/25/2006 9:19:37 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Full Court

thanks for your reply.

My opinion still stands: When Cloud has done one millionth what Billy has to spread the Gospel, I might give him a bit of credibility.

best regards...


79 posted on 04/25/2006 9:20:04 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Alex Murphy

He teaches Nepalese how to type hysterically in ALL CAPS.


80 posted on 04/25/2006 9:20:19 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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