Posted on 05/07/2006 3:14:21 PM PDT by tenn2005
The scripture points out, however, that you are free to keep living under the law if you desire.
Personally, I don't desire.
The blood of bulls and goats never made one perfect. Otherwise, they would have stopped once they accomplished their purpose.
Heb 10:1 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming--not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship.
Rom 14:5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8 If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11 It is written: "'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'"
Col 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
Go ahead and observe those things. I know others who do. Some of them are very clear that they don't think the observing of them makes them one whit more righteous. I'm glad for those who realize this. That means they've got their trust in Christ who will credit their faith as righteousness.
Yes, what a privilege! What a gift! What a humbling and prayerful experience!
Plus we can receive the Body and Blodd of our Savior every day too, if we haven't sinned.
Very good, very good, very good!
***My Bible starts in Genesis and goes to Revelation.***
Revelation? The Holy City!
Then we have a problem. How will one count the days so as to keep the sabbath as there will be no night there? Maybe a seven day clock?
Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb [is] the light thereof.
Rev 22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
Observation of the sabbath as a holy day was first commanded when Moses came down with the tablets. It was not observed before that time, and therefore, it is not an eternal law that was given by God at the beginning of time.
1163 "Holy Mother Church believes that she should celebrate the saving work of her divine Spouse in a sacred commemoration on certain days throughout the course of the year. Once each week, on the day which she has called the Lord's Day, she keeps the memory of the Lord's resurrection. She also celebrates it once every year, together with his blessed Passion, at Easter, that most solemn of all feasts. In the course of the year, moreover, she unfolds the whole mystery of Christ. . . . Thus recalling the mysteries of the redemption, she opens up to the faithful the riches of her Lord's powers and merits, so that these are in some way made present in every age; the faithful lay hold of them and are filled with saving grace."33
33 SC 102.
1164 From the time of the Mosaic law, the People of God have observed fixed feasts, beginning with Passover, to commemorate the astonishing actions of the Savior God, to give him thanks for them, to perpetuate their remembrance, and to teach new generations to conform their conduct to them. In the age of the Church, between the Passover of Christ already accomplished once for all, and its consummation in the kingdom of God, the liturgy celebrated on fixed days bears the imprint of the newness of the mystery of Christ.
1166 "By a tradition handed down from the apostles which took its origin from the very day of Christ's Resurrection, the Church celebrates the Paschal mystery every seventh day, which day is appropriately called the Lord's Day or Sunday."36 The day of Christ's Resurrection is both the first day of the week, the memorial of the first day of creation, and the "eighth day," on which Christ after his "rest" on the great sabbath inaugurates the "day that the Lord has made," the "day that knows no evening."37 The Lord's Supper is its center, for there the whole community of the faithful encounters the risen Lord who invites them to his banquet:38
The Lord's day, the day of Resurrection, the day of Christians, is our day. It is called the Lord's day because on it the Lord rose victorious to the Father. If pagans call it the "day of the sun," we willingly agree, for today the light of the world is raised, today is revealed the sun of justice with healing in his rays.39
36 SC 106.
37 Byzantine liturgy.
38 Cf. Jn 21:12; Lk 24:30.
39 St. Jerome, Pasch.: CCL 78,550.
1167 Sunday is the pre-eminent day for the liturgical assembly, when the faithful gather "to listen to the word of God and take part in the Eucharist, thus calling to mind the Passion, Resurrection, and glory of the Lord Jesus, and giving thanks to God who 'has begotten them again, by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead' unto a living hope":40
When we ponder, O Christ, the marvels accomplished on this day, the Sunday of your holy resurrection, we say: "Blessed is Sunday, for on it began creation . . . the world's salvation . . . the renewal of the human race. . . . On Sunday heaven and earth rejoiced and the whole universe was filled with light. Blessed is Sunday, for on it were opened the gates of paradise so that Adam and all the exiles might enter it without fear.41
40 SC 106.
41 Fanqith, The Syriac Office of Antioch, vol. VI, first part of Summer, 193 B.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
The blood of bulls and goats never made one perfect.
Jesus paid the penalty for sin, thus ending animal sacrifices. The Law defined sin, right? So sin must remain, otherwise how do you explain Greta van Susteren's success? And if sin, remains, the Law remains.
I choose to make myself and my house easily recognizable to Jesus when He returns.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Phi 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
This text precedes the 10 Commandments.
Exo 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, Tomorrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake today, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
Many of us regard the 10 Commandments as valid to Gentile and Jew alike, anyhow.
Take it up with Isaiah, bro. The text I quoted appears to refer to the 1000 years between the Second Coming and the New Jerusalem. I don't know how post-millenialists regard that text.
The Sabbath was never binding on Gentiles. Also, It was part of the Old Covenant, which we are no longer under.
what do you think?
Is your wife hot? If there is no Law.....
The laws which God gave to the nation of Israel began almost immediately after their departure from Egypt. These laws were never given to the Gentile world nor were they ment for the Gentile world. Every law given to the Jewish nation by God through Moses is part of the Law of Moses and includes Sabbath worship.
Oh, I see. When you don't have a valid response, you attempt to be humorous. Not going to take that bait.
Then who is this "remnant"?
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
That is my response. Your theology is non-linear if you regard adultery or any of the commandments as valid but just not that pesky Jewish Sabbath.
That would be the Christians.
All commands to the New Testament church which Jesus came to establish are valad. You will find ample admonitions against adultry without having to go back the the Old Law which has been aboloshed.
OK, so the remnant is the Christians. Now if the formaula is Christ+Commandments=remnant, then how is the Sabbath and the Law gone?
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