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Father Robert Altier to be Assistant Chaplain of Nursing Home
A VOICE IN THE DESERT ^ | 5/11/2006 | MILESJESU

Posted on 05/11/2006 8:50:13 AM PDT by MILESJESU

Father Robert Altier to be Assistant Chaplain of Nursing Home

Father George Welzbacher, pastor of the Church of Saint Agnes, has issued a statement regarding the unexpected reassignments of both himself and Father Robert Altier. Sometime in mid-June, Father Welzbacher will be leaving Saint Agnes parish at his own request and move to an unspecified location. But the biggest surprise is Archbishop Harry Flynn's shocking decision to remove Father Altier from Saint Agnes and appoint him as assistant chaplain of a nursing home in an outlying district 30 miles southeast of Saint Paul-Minneapolis.

At the age of 45, Father Altier has served 17 years in the priesthood, 14 of those as Assistant Pastor at the world-renowned Church of Saint Agnes, and now Archbishop Flynn has decided it is just and proper to relegate him to a nursing home. This is a priest who generously spends long hours in the confessional bringing souls back to God, who has been responsible for guiding numerous young people to offer their lives in religious vocations, who for 17 years has painstakingly given instruction through his Fundamentals of Catholicism course to over 150 people each year and brought hundreds of converts into the Catholic Church, who is renowned for his skills in spiritual direction, who acts as board member and advisor to several orthodox Catholic organizations, and who up until recently had been preaching to a worldwide audience via A Voice in the Desert website and Relevant Radio broadcasting.

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Father Robert Altier to be Assistant Chaplain of Nursing Home

Father George Welzbacher, pastor of the Church of Saint Agnes, has issued a statement regarding the unexpected reassignments of both himself and Father Robert Altier. Sometime in mid-June, Father Welzbacher will be leaving Saint Agnes parish at his own request and move to an unspecified location. But the biggest surprise is Archbishop Harry Flynn's shocking decision to remove Father Altier from Saint Agnes and appoint him as assistant chaplain of a nursing home in an outlying district 30 miles southeast of Saint Paul-Minneapolis.

At the age of 45, Father Altier has served 17 years in the priesthood, 14 of those as Assistant Pastor at the world-renowned Church of Saint Agnes, and now Archbishop Flynn has decided it is just and proper to relegate him to a nursing home. This is a priest who generously spends long hours in the confessional bringing souls back to God, who has been responsible for guiding numerous young people to offer their lives in religious vocations, who for 17 years has painstakingly given instruction through his Fundamentals of Catholicism course to over 150 people each year and brought hundreds of converts into the Catholic Church, who is renowned for his skills in spiritual direction, who acts as board member and advisor to several orthodox Catholic organizations, and who up until recently had been preaching to a worldwide audience via A Voice in the Desert website and Relevant Radio broadcasting.

The Archbishop stated in a public email on March 20 that he asked Father Altier to cease his multi-media apostolates because it "might be beneficial to him and to the parish of St. Agnes." Apparently, he thought Father needed more time to fulfill his responsibilities at the parish. His Excellency then went on to invite people to "visit Saint Agnes where Fr. Altier continues to actively minister" if they wanted to hear him preach. But now he will reside at a nursing home. Isn't this a contradiction to what the Archbishop originally told us in his message of March 20?

The nursing home in question is Regina Medical Center in Hastings, Minnesota.

(You can visit their website pastoral page at http://www.reginamedical.org/index.asp?pageID=page_39.htm

and the nursing home information can be found at http://www.reginamedical.org/index.asp?pageID=33 )

This nursing home is a modern 61-bed facility which is currently served by a kindly 75-year-old priest. A chancery official has stated that this present priest chaplain will continue in his current position at Regina; therefore, Father Altier will serve as assistant chaplain. In addition, there is already a religious sister on site who is responsible for ministering to the nursing home and assisted living residents, and she also will continue in her present position. As there is only one scheduled Mass each day which will be prayed by the current chaplain, there are virtually no daily requirements for the assistant chaplain to fulfill besides praying his own private Mass, providing the occasional sacraments of Anointing of the Sick and Confession, and infrequent counseling for residents, patients, or their families. A small hospital is on the premises, but no major surgeries are done there and no trauma unit exists.

With approximately 10-12 parishes in the archdiocese lacking a resident priest, it is certainly surprising that a priest of Father Altier's caliber would be sent to a destination where he will have an overabundance of time on his hands.

Since March 1, Catholics worldwide have been asking the following questions: Why did Archbishop Flynn silence Father Altier? Why did he shut down a Catholic website known for its fidelity to the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church? The first clue came when Archdiocesan spokesman Dennis McGrath told the Star Tribune, "I surmise that Father Altier's contrarian position on VIRTUS is the issue." VIRTUS and its related program Talking About Touching (TAT) are the answers proposed by the Bishops of the United States to the sex-abuse scandal which broke out in 2002. Unfortunately, these graphic sex-ed programs are in direct violation of Vatican teachings on human sexuality and do nothing to stop predators but instead place the burden of protection on young children themselves. Archbishop Flynn served as chairperson of the USCCB's Ad Hoc Committee on Sexual Abuse which developed these programs and he chose to proliferate it throughout his archdiocese beginning in the 2006-2007 school year, with pilot program testing to start in the spring of 2006. As the material content of these programs became more widely known, concern grew over their appropriateness.

And because many aspects of VIRTUS and TAT are contrary to Church teaching (see sample lessons at http://www.primaryeducators.org/lessons.php),

Father Altier felt it was his duty to inform parents in an effort to protect the young children who would have their innocence irrevocably shattered by such programs. As parents became aware of the dangers of VIRTUS and TAT, they explored the possibility of using an alternative program: Formation in Christian Chastity (FICC) from the Diocese of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

(For information, visit http://www.primaryeducators.org/ )

According to a statement made by Father George Welzbacher, pastor of the Church of Saint Agnes, FICC is the program preferred by Archbishop Flynn himself!

(You can read Fr. Welzbacher's statement at http://www.desertvoice.org/responseoffraltierandfrwelzbacher.htm )

It is interesting that the Archbishop would choose to exclusively promote VIRTUS/TAT when he actually prefers FICC. LifeSiteNews and other Catholic news services have stated that VIRTUS enjoys the support of homosexual activist groups around the country. (See article

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/apr/06040706.html )

The program is also endorsed by none other than Planned Parenthood. Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz of the diocese of Lincoln, Nebraska, recently stated that it was a well known fact that the members of the National Review Board responsible for mandating the use of these sex-ed programs are "ardent advocates of partial birth abortion, other abortions, human cloning, and other moral errors."

(See article http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/apr/06040302.html )

And so it was that at a recent meeting of approximately 200 local Catholic school principals and religious education directors on February 10, 2006, the question was asked about "what was going to be done about local priests that were stirring up the pot about the chancery's safe-environment initiative." Sister Fran Donnelly, the Saint Paul-Minneapolis archdiocesan director of the Protection of Children and Youth Initiative, answered that "[Vicar General] Fr. Kevin McDonough is getting out a two-by-four." (You can read her response at http://thewandererpress.com/a3-9-2006.htm ) As Father Altier has been at the forefront of the efforts to stop the infiltration of VIRTUS in our archdiocese, it is clear to see that the two-by-four Sister Donnelly was referring to came to Father Altier on Ash Wednesday in the form of the Archbishop's request that he take his material off the internet and stop participating in broadcasts on Relevant Radio.

And now that Father Altier will be sent to a nursing home, one can see just how cruel this two-by-four has been, and continues to be. The fact that the Archbishop delivered his initial request on Ash Wednesday speaks volumes. It made for a very harsh Lent for Father Altier and all of you worldwide who have come to rely on Father's sound spiritual instruction on the internet and radio. Yet Our Lord said that a light shines brighter in the darkness, and so Father's continuing example of obedience and gentleness during this trial is a beacon for all of us on how to live the truly Catholic life. He had told us that he "would go down for the sake of the children" because he truly loves each and every soul. We thank God for his courage and for any priest who would be willing to do the same. Bishop Bruskewitz, Bishop Vasa, and a handful of others are standing firm in refusing to allow these horrendous sex-ed programs into their dioceses. (To learn about the scandalous origins of these programs, see http://thewandererpress.com/a11-3-2005.htm ) Fortunately, the superior they report to -- Pope Benedict XVI -- is in full unity with Catholic doctrine and these bishops have maintained their allegiance to the Holy Father without yielding to pressure from dissident factions within the Church.

(Bishop Vasa's statement is at http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/jul/04072107.html ) But for Father Altier, his future is in the immediate hands of Archbishop Flynn.

Most regretfully, we do not see the same obedience from our Archbishop as we are witnessing today in Father Altier.

(For details concerning the Archbishop's conduct go to http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06030602.html )

The archdiocese continues to sink deeper and deeper into depravity while the homosexual community is pandered to, and meanwhile we witness this wrongful action and extreme marginalization committed against a priest who has been a faithful son of Holy Mother Church. Why should it be that our own elderly Archbishop is personally thanked by the gay Rainbow Sash movement for his support of the homosexual agenda within the Church, and a good, holy, young orthodox priest like Father Altier gets sent to a nursing home?

What a contrast this is!

We initially suggested that you contact Most Reverend Harry J. Flynn in a charitable manner to express your concerns about Father Altier's situation, but now you may want to contact the following Vatican officials to express your grave distress at the blatant injustice we are seeing unfold before our eyes -- because, after all, one wonders what will be next.

His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI PP. Bishop of Rome Apostolic Palace Via del Pellegrino Citta del Vaticano Vatican City State, 00120 phone: 011.3906.6988.10.22 email:av@pccs.va fax: 011.3906.6988.53.73

His Eminence Dario Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos Prefect

The Congregation for the Clergy Piazza Pio XII 3 00120 Vatican City State phone: 011.3906.69.88.4l.5l Fax: 011.3906.69.88.48.45

His Excellency The Most Reverend Pietro Sambi Apostolic Nuncio to the United States 3339 Massachusetts Ave., N.W. Washington, D.C. 20008-3687 phone: 202-333-7l2l fax: 202-337-4036

1 posted on 05/11/2006 8:50:16 AM PDT by MILESJESU
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; sandyeggo; Lady In Blue; Pyro7480; livius; MississippiDeltaDawg; ...

FATHER ROBERT ALTIER SILENCED AND EXILED PING!

PLEASE FREEPMAIL ME IF YOU WANT ON OR OFF THIS LIST


2 posted on 05/11/2006 8:53:07 AM PDT by MILESJESU (CATHOLICISM ROCKS. BLESSED BE JESUS CHRIST, TRUE GOD AND TRUE MAN IN THE BLESSED SACRAMENT.)
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To: All

Friends in Jesus and Mary,

The Family, that runs a "Voice in the Desert" has asked all faithful Catholics and Readers of Father Altier's Homilies to get in touch asap with all kinds of Vatican officials who may be able to rectify this situation.

The name of the Couple that runs this web site are called Ken and Elizabeth Schwab O.C.D.S. DesertVoice Web Masters.

Please Pray for Father Altier and write to anyone from the Vatican if you would like to.


3 posted on 05/11/2006 9:01:53 AM PDT by MILESJESU (FATHER ROBERT ALTIER IS A MAN OF GOD AND A TRUE SOLDIER OF JESUS CHRIST)
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To: MILESJESU

very sad. I sent a respectful e-mail to Archbishop Flynn about Fr. Altier about 8 weeks ago... no response of course.

The people and staff at that nursing home are fortunate to have Fr. Altier.


4 posted on 05/11/2006 9:04:08 AM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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To: Nihil Obstat; All

FATHER ROBERT ALTIER SILENCED AND EXILED BUMP


6 posted on 05/11/2006 9:15:42 AM PDT by MILESJESU (FATHER ROBERT ALTIER IS A MAN OF GOD AND A TRUE SOLDIER OF JESUS CHRIST)
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To: MILESJESU; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
God acts in strange ways. Perhaps, Fr. Altier is needed to assist souls before they make their final journey home.

Many prayers for Fr. Altier.

7 posted on 05/11/2006 10:37:13 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: MILESJESU

File this under "no good priest goes unpunished."


8 posted on 05/11/2006 10:40:55 AM PDT by Antoninus (I will not vote for a liberal, regardless of party.)
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To: Salvation; NYer; Antoninus; All

FATHER ROBERT ALTIER, A FAITHFUL AND LOYAL PRIEST SILENCED AND EXILED BUMP


9 posted on 05/11/2006 10:43:55 AM PDT by MILESJESU (FATHER ROBERT ALTIER IS A MAN OF GOD AND A TRUE SOLDIER OF JESUS CHRIST)
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To: NYer

A priest who serves at one of the main nursing homes here is always on call for substituting in other parishes. Maybe this will happen in this case also!


10 posted on 05/11/2006 10:46:49 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Salvation,

I hate to say this but you are unfortunately wrong in this case.

He has been purposely banished here, so that he does not have contact with a living soul-- forget about being on call to substitute in other parishes.

Do you know that this Nursing Home is almost in the middle of no where ?

This Nursing Home already has a Chaplain who is 75 years old and a Religious Sister who takes care of all the needs of the patients at this hospice.

I think i will post some emails that I have received, from a couple I used to know in Philly and who are now Parishioners of Saint Agnes that will definitely throw some light in the right path on this issue.

Please pray for Ken and Elizabeth Schwab -- Desert Voice Web Masters.


11 posted on 05/11/2006 10:51:49 AM PDT by MILESJESU (FATHER ROBERT ALTIER IS A MAN OF GOD AND A TRUE SOLDIER OF JESUS CHRIST)
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To: All

NO GOOD PRIEST GOES UNPUNISHED BUMP


12 posted on 05/11/2006 10:54:33 AM PDT by MILESJESU (FATHER ROBERT ALTIER IS A MAN OF GOD AND A TRUE SOLDIER OF JESUS CHRIST)
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To: MILESJESU
And as a "FAITHFUL AND LOYAL PRIEST", he will say "yes, sir" and go where ordered.

We, the laity, OTOH, are entitled to raise a stink.

13 posted on 05/11/2006 11:00:09 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Check out http://www.desertvoice.org/LettertoArchbishop.htm

Also, Check out http://www.desertvoice.org/Censored.html

Letter from the Webmasters to Archbishop Flynn

On April 26, we sent the following letter to Archbishop Harry Flynn asking his permission to restore Father Altier's homilies to the DesertVoice website. To date, he has not given us a response.

April 26, 2006

The Most Reverend Harry J. Flynn
Archbishop of Saint Paul and Minneapolis
226 Summit Avenue
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102

Your Excellency:

Praised be Jesus Christ!

Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. We operate the DesertVoice website which has published Father Altier’s homilies for the past five years. As Secular Discalced Carmelites, we are called to pray especially for priests and have devoted ourselves to serving the Church through this website apostolate.

In recent weeks, we have received letters from faithful Catholics around the world telling us how much the website has benefited them in their spiritual life. We have enclosed a few excerpts of these for you to read yourself; they are very touching. People continue to ask for a complete restoration of the website and some wonder if it is at least possible for the material which was published prior to March 1, 2006, to once again be posted, as it had already been on the Internet these past five years.

Perhaps it would help in making your decision to know that we ourselves have tended to every aspect of the website, including the recording, transcription, programming, etc. When you made your request to Father Altier, we promptly complied and wanted to show our respect for you by being obedient to your wishes. If you were not pleased with any particular material which appeared on our website, we would be willing to remove it should you indicate that to us.

The organization Catholic Culture reviewed our site and gave it the Fidelity Green Light Award for excellence in fidelity to Catholic Church teaching. This site review is also enclosed, as well as statistics on the number of visitors we regularly receive. We can feel confident that the material which has been presented on our website is in conformity with Church teaching and has helped thousands of Catholics all over the world to better understand their faith and grow closer to Our Lord, as they themselves say in their many kind letters.

It would be such a joy for us to continue our apostolate in obedience to you and in service of the Catholic people. We thank you for considering the possibility of allowing us to re-establish the website and once again publish the homilies which appeared on www.desertvoice.org. You remain in our prayers, and we humbly ask for your blessing and your prayers.

In Our Lady of Mount Carmel,

Ken and Elizabeth Schwab, OCDS

Enclosures: Excerpts, Site Review, and Statistics






14 posted on 05/11/2006 11:00:46 AM PDT by MILESJESU (FATHER ROBERT ALTIER IS A MAN OF GOD AND A TRUE SOLDIER OF JESUS CHRIST)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Pardon, My Ignorance.

What is OTOH?

I await your kind response.

Many Thanks in anticcipation.


15 posted on 05/11/2006 11:04:47 AM PDT by MILESJESU (FATHER ROBERT ALTIER IS A MAN OF GOD AND A TRUE SOLDIER OF JESUS CHRIST)
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To: MILESJESU
Maybe it's time for this priest to join another order? I mean, seriously, the American bishops don't even obey the Pope, what makes you think they'll pay attention to emails?
16 posted on 05/11/2006 11:05:19 AM PDT by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves)
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To: MILESJESU

OTOH = On The Other Hand


17 posted on 05/11/2006 11:07:02 AM PDT by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves)
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To: MILESJESU

'netspeak acronym for On The Other Hand.


18 posted on 05/11/2006 11:08:29 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: blu; All

Good Point, Brother or Sister in Christ.

I strongly feel that Father Altier should not go to this "Nursing Home" at all rather he should get himself incardinated as a Diocesan priest in the Diocese or Archdiocese of an Orthodox/Traditional/Conservative Bishop or Archbishop like Archbishop Chaput of Denver or Bishop Bruskewitz of Lincoln, Nebraska or he should join Mother Angelica's E.W.T.N. Friars or he could even consider the Fathers of Mercy from South Union-- Kentucky who are extremely Orthodox and Traditional.

Father Shannon Collins and Father Bill Casey are from this order who appear on E.W.T.N. Television.

Or better still Father Corapi's Order -- The Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity based in Texas.


19 posted on 05/11/2006 11:11:19 AM PDT by MILESJESU (FATHER ROBERT ALTIER IS A MAN OF GOD AND A TRUE SOLDIER OF JESUS CHRIST)
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To: ArrogantBustard; blu

Many Thanks for clarifying that. I am still young in terms of net speak.

I am only familiar with asap and btw. I am still learning the ropes around here.


20 posted on 05/11/2006 11:14:00 AM PDT by MILESJESU (FATHER ROBERT ALTIER IS A MAN OF GOD AND A TRUE SOLDIER OF JESUS CHRIST)
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