Posted on 06/11/2006 10:23:04 AM PDT by dangus
So...If we flirt, then by God, we better put out, or we're liars AND hussies?
What? Just the opposite! How did you get that? I said to flirt away!
To wit:
>> "Dont promise what you wont deliver; thats what being a tease is. Dont walk up to a guy, slam him against the car, and give him a kiss that peals the paintjob off, and then tell him youre busy washing your hair next Friday. But even as brazen as THAT behavior is, nothing suggests any promise of fornication, as long as all the body contact is, umm, family-friendly." <<
Maybe i put to many paranthetic clauses in so you didn't catch what I was saying... even fantastically brazen flirting doesn't suggest any promise of fornication...
Maybe I'm confused, but it seems like that's what you're saying here. You seem to accept that men should be the initiators, but then you place the burden on women to be approachable and open about what they want.
I'm not trying to fight about it, but I think you're talking about two different kinds of women here as one.
Well, yes... if a woman wants to be approached by a man whom she likes, she should be approachable.
But I'm certainly not calling anyone who acts approachable a hussy! Quite the opposite, I assured that she will not be considered a hussy.
BTW, I'm sorry if we got off on the wrong foot because of my first post; that came off a little crankier then I had anticipated. :-) I married the first guy I actually dated, so maybe I should just move along.
All I meant to say by mentioning teases is to say, "hey, being a little forward is not being a tease, so go ahead, and be forward if you need to be; you're not making any promises."
No, actually, I know I'm discussing a VERY dicey subject... If something has the potential for being misread, I'd like the chance to clarify it!
And it's said men are simple?
Hmmm...
I'll stand by.
*I met my bride in high school She had long strawberry blonde hair and she used to wear white dungarees and a pink turtleneck and she always used to walk past my locker and give me a big smile and say hello. She was the sexiest, nicest, warmest, smartest, woman I have yet met.
Once, she walked-up to me and gave me a sandwich. "I made this sandwich this morning but I am not that hungry. Your sister told me you liked chicken sandwiches and last night we had chicken and so I made this sandwich.. but I'm not hungry. Here...I'll see you later..."
I kept up my initative for a week or so by standing right beside my locker, nearly tongue-tied, watching her walk up to me, smile and chat a bit. (of course, back then, I'd have driven 500 miles just to watch her walk up and down a flight of stairs) I kept up that initiative until I asked her for a date.
I had worn her down. She went out with me. All it took was a litlte initative on my part :)
Did I say men were 'simple'? No. Stop trying to get me in trouble. :-P
>> Once, she walked-up to me and gave me a sandwich. <<
See, ladies... effective flirting. All that says is, "Hi, I noticed you."
Now, bornacatholic, give your wife a little credit: that took a LOT of initiative on her part... she just concealed it really well...
I pray you have 1/100th the great Blessing I had when I met her
>> Did I say men were 'simple'? No. Stop trying to get me in trouble. :-P <<
OK, folks, break out the popcorn... NOW, I'm going to get in BIG trouble:
No, but I did. =^D. And I think women and men would get along better if women truly understood how simple we are. Heck, half of the men who lie are really wondering at the time, "Is that my cue?"
"She asked me if she gained weight, I told her the truth, that she put on maybe five pounds. She threw a frying pan at me." You have no IDEA how many brain cells are wasted on that riddle! "What's my LINE, what's my LINE!"
It'd be so great if women could just ask, "do you still love me," but then again, it's no wonder she doesn't trust the answer to THAT question... Long ago, he was trained to say, "Sure I love you," by being rewarded with sex.
And that's why smart women know the only acceptable answer to that question is "I do."
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you said that!
(now I'm in trouble!)
Many times men say they have simple needs. I was actually agreeing with you, re: dangus' take on the situation, heh heh.
:^D Thanks.
You are waaaay over thinking the male/female relationship thing. I learned early on that problems with the opposite sex (for either men or women) is confined for the most part to introverts. I can't think of a single example in my enitre life of an extroverted individual who did not do well with the opposite sex.
It really is that simple.
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