[Cavalcabo]

The mainstream media keep taking these clowns seriously.

[Jaysun]

I'm not Catholic but this makes me sick.

Why would women want to be ordained in the first place? To be irreverent, cause controversy and strife, assert their "Independence"? It's ridiculous. They should be renounced from Rome as perverted harlots. Our family has been Methodist since the late 1700s, but I left because they wouldn't discourage similar nonsense.

The liberals work hard to undermine the Catholic church. More so than any other church, I think.

[livius]

"Presiding at the ceremony will be Patricia Fresen, Gisela Forster and Ida Raming, who live in Germany and are bishops in Roman Catholic Womenpriests, an international group of Catholics who support women's ordination.

These people are about as Catholic as Marx, and about as much "bishops" as my goldfish. But of course the press loves them and always refers to them as "Catholics," and sometimes even treats them as representatives of the Catholic Church.

The awful and completely NON-Catholic pro-abortion group known as "Catholics for a Free Choice," which is actually funded by the Ford Foundation and several other large foundations, is always the first place the press goes for its "Catholic" opinion interviews. By setting thesmelves up as a sort of parallel church, accepted and promoted by the media, these groups hope to simply obscure and confuse the real Catholic Church.

[markomalley]

The participants in the July 31 ceremony, Father Lengwin added, are ignoring church teaching. "I would say they have freely chosen to separate themselves from the church," he said.

That says it all right there. End of discussion.

[muawiyah]

Protestant church groups ordain women all the time.

This is simply not news.

[HarleyD]

"...who with seven other women are answering a call to be priests"

I see this phrase often. WHO called? It's just another way of saying I'm going to do what I want and I know God approves.

[Convert from ECUSA]

"On July 31, a dozen well-educated, experienced Roman Catholic women will pass into uncharted spiritual waters on a boat cruising Pittsburgh's rivers."

Calling all U-boats, calling all U-boats!

[NYer]

MEET THE ORDINANDS

Why Women Can't be Priests

[NYer]

MEET THE ORDINANDS

Why Women Can't be Priests

[NYer]

MEET THE ORDINANDS

Why Women Can't be Priests

[epow]

Something here doesn't compute. I am not Catholic, and I should probably stay out of a discussion which I know so little about. But since I'm not that bashful I will say that although I don't know how the RC hierarchy operates regarding the admission of candidates for the priesthood, this "ordination" sounds as phony as a $3 bill.

It would seem to me as a Baptist looking in from the peanut gallery that if the RC Church itself doesn't ordain these women or recognize their ordination they aren't going to be priests, or I guess that would be priestesses, in the Church. I would think that any priestly duties they perform will be bogus and meaningless as far as the Church is concerned, and possibly even in the eyes of the law. IOW, I wouldn't consider a marriage ceremony conducted by one of those "priestesses" as a valid, Christian, church sanctioned marriage, or a baptism performed by one of them as a true rite of the Church. Seems to me it's all just politically correct make believe to give the ladies a feeling that they are doing something meaningful to defy what they think is a repressive church hierarchy.

To me, following the scriptural instructions given to the early Church by Jesus himself speaking through the epistles of the Apostle Paul is not repression of women. It's simply acknowledging that Jesus Christ has total, absolute authority to say what is the proper procedure to follow in ordaining ministers in his church which he bought and washed with his own blood. Unfortunately the mainline protestant churches are much farther down this unscriptural but politically correct road than the RC, or my own Baptist denomination which has so far rejected attempts to make it conform to the liberal left's loony tunes ideas of what church doctrine should be instead of what it's Head says it MUST be if it's authentic.

Baptists and Catholics may seem to be strange bedfellows in many respects, but it may eventually come down to the point where we are the only people who still believe that Christ is in charge of running his church and not the PC loony left.

[the invisib1e hand]

why do people insist on painting a bulls-eye across America?

[ArrogantBustard]

uncharted spiritual waters

Baloney ... The waters of apostasy and excommunication are well charted indeed. Even this particular brand of apostasy and excommunication.

[JeeperFreeper]

Just because they say so.....doesn't make it so. For example, I hereby declare myself chair of the women's studies department of the Univ. of Texas.

All you grant money belong me.

[Antoninus]

More like Cathars than Catholics, I think.

This publicity stunt is not even worthy of a *yawn*.

[pravknight]

The mainstream media is generally ignorant of Catholic issues, theology, spirituality, etc. I work in the press, and I confront their ignorances and prejudices on a daily basis.

[StJacques]

I have no problem with women expressing their religious views in a ceremony of ordination.

I have a very big problem with their calling themselves "Catholics" when they do it.

When our beloved Pope John Paul the Great passed from this life and into the bosom of our Lord I knew what to expect. We would see an entire discussion develop on the television news talk shows about whether the Cardinals selecting a new pope might "finally set the Catholic Church on a path to equalizing the role of women within it." And on came one after another of a group of commentators, not all of them women, who sat in front of the cameras and spoke to "centuries of change in the status of women" or "generations of progress in women's rights" or "the new world the Catholic Church must face," all of which developed the thesis that the status of women in the Catholic Church was one that demeaned them and that this was an opportunity for the Church to address the issue and "come into the modern world." All I could do was to sit in front of the television and ask the question "is there any such thing as unchanging religious truth"?

The Catholic Church as endured for two millenia for a reason; it did not simply throw out its major tenets just to make itself compatible with the current climate of ideas. If the Church is to survive it must stick to those precepts which have enabled it to last and perhaps speak more clearly to the need to express the value of "permanence" as an antidote to an ever-changing and always-evolving standard of public morality.

And I now anticipate an entirely new experience of outrage with the mainstream news media as I expect to find myself sitting in front of my television and listening to one news commentator after another describe these women as "Catholics."

[Rytwyng]

On July 31, a dozen well-educated, experienced Roman Catholic women will pass into uncharted spiritual waters...

...of the river Styx, which feeds into the Lake of Fire.

[bornacatholic]

And the Bishops in these Dioceses where these clowns hold their Circuses have, it seems to me, the Duty to Teach the ordinations have no effect at all, and to Rule that because of their actions these women will be formally excommunicated.

The Bishop could contact the local fishwrap and set the rcord straight about Ordination, Jurisdiction, Obedience, Canon Law, Magisterial Taeching re women and the priests etc etc and by his education and example start to revivify the Faith

[kenth]

Why do they keep doing this on boats? They seem to think it imparts some sort of shield from the Church.

The media does keep approaching this as if the women are actually priests. Then again, anything anti-Catholic is part of the media's agenda.

[lastchance]

These woman are not Catholic, They are not Roman, Byzantine, Melkite, or any other Catholic in union with the See of Peter. They are heretics, blasphemers and daugthers of rebellion.

The press is so Anti Catholic it jumps at any chance to show how " Catholics" are defying that mean ole, homophobic, misogynist, anti choice fanatic the Pope and all his reactionary goosestepping cohorts. ( their view not mine)

I for one am long past sick of it.