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Vatican opposes female clergy anywhere, gives reasons from Bible
Associated Press ^ | Saturday, July 8, 2006 | Richard N. Ostling

Posted on 07/08/2006 9:23:38 AM PDT by WestTexasWend

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To: marajade
I don't have a personal opinion. I read the Bible and understand what it means.

All the opinions you have expressed concerning Scripture are personal.

If you claim you read the Bible and understand what it means, pray tell, why can't you elaborate or admit to accepting the passages I gave you or not? Instead, it appears you hem and haw, and beat around the bush about answering directly.

381 posted on 07/12/2006 8:08:23 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290

Maybe you need a woman to teach you in formal setting. Since its seems you don't understand. Even though it may be against Biblical practices.


382 posted on 07/12/2006 8:10:11 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Maybe you need a woman to teach you in formal setting. Since its seems you don't understand. Even though it may be against Biblical practices.

I don't need anyone to teach me thank you very much what I need is a straight answer for you. I am going to simplify it this time.

The subject of this thread: "Vatican opposes female clergy anywhere, gives reasons from Bible."

Do you oppose female clergy? Yes or no?

383 posted on 07/12/2006 8:13:24 PM PDT by FJ290
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what I need is a straight answer for you.

Strike that. "what I need is a straight answer FROM you."


384 posted on 07/12/2006 8:14:38 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290

Yes I oppose it. I also oppose celibate clergy since it too is against Biblical standards, in fact in the book of timothy, forbidding a leader/bishop of the church is evil.


385 posted on 07/12/2006 8:15:00 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

oops forbidding a bishop to marry


386 posted on 07/12/2006 8:16:35 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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oops forbidding a bishop to marry

But Marajade, it does NOT say forbidding a Bishop to marry.

Let's look at it in context:

Now the Spirit manifestly saith, that in the LAST TIMES some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to spirits of error, and doctrines of devils,

Speaking lies in hypocrisy, and having their conscience seared,

Forbidding to marry, to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving by the faithful, and by them that have known the truth.

Where did he say Bishop? Where did he say priest?

Scholars say St. Paul was speaking about certain sects which were Gnostic and they also had a disdain for the material world and for the material body. They were also strict vegetarians.

387 posted on 07/12/2006 8:28:01 PM PDT by FJ290
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Entire book of Timothy is about the qualifications set for Bishops. Context, context, context.


388 posted on 07/13/2006 6:52:17 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Entire book of Timothy is about the qualifications set for Bishops. Context, context, context.

Speaking of getting things into context, please explain something to me.

Why do you say in post #608, subject "Brokeback Mountain Gets 8 Oscar Nominations":

Why can't homosexuals be conservatives? I'm pro abortion myself and would still consider myself to be conservative.

Pro abortion? Homosexual conservatives? Do you agree with the commandment "Thou Shall Not Kill?" How can you be pro-abortion and take that Holy Commandment literally?

In same subject title, post #562, you appear to be in favor of this revolting film. Do you not agree with "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination." Leviticus 18:22

In yet another thread, "Here comes the Mother to Be" in post # 60 you commend a woman on that thread for posing nude while pregnant. Do you not agree with these passages from Scripture on modesty?

For the rest, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever modest, whatsoever just, whatsoever holy, whatsoever lovely, whatsoever of good fame, if there be any virtue, if any praise of discipline, think on these things. Philippians 4:8

But the wisdom, that is from above, first indeed is chaste, then peaceable, modest, easy to be persuaded, consenting to the good, full of mercy and good fruits, without judging, without dissimulation. St. James 3:17

Take SPECIAL note of this one, Marajade:

In like manner women also in decent apparel: adorning themselves with modesty and sobriety, not with plaited hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly attire 1 Timothy 2:9

So.. you were saying WHAT about the Catholic Church not following Scripture again?

389 posted on 07/13/2006 7:35:05 PM PDT by FJ290
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I've never had an abortion and I've never appeared nude. What's your problem?


390 posted on 07/13/2006 8:14:54 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
I've never had an abortion and I've never appeared nude. What's your problem?

My problem is that you said you are pro-abortion and that is unbiblical. My problem is that you applauded a woman you were talking with on that thread for posing nude and that is unbiblical, not to mention how enthusiastic you were over Brokeback Mountain=(abomination)

Would Jesus support any of that?

391 posted on 07/13/2006 8:27:08 PM PDT by FJ290
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