Posted on 08/16/2006 5:31:28 PM PDT by Coleus
If its not biblical, its not Christianity, they need to get a new name for it.
I really, really need to stay off the Catholic threads lol
For David's dancing check 2 Samuel 6 when the Ark was brought to Jerusalem. Lots of dancing there.
I don't believe any authority in any of the various Christian churches in the world has ever denied that Thomas' Christians were Christians. No doubt there are ceremonies (and some beliefs) with which they don't agree, but the fundamental legitimacy hasn't been attacked. If so, maybe you can dig it up for us.
For the record, what I had in mind were denials that Pope John Paul II received a Hindu ceremonial blessing in 1986 at an event called "The Spirit of Assisi":
The “Spirit of Assisi,” spearheaded in 1986, comprises Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, Jews, Moslems, Animists, Hindus, Zoroastrians, Witch Doctors, and various others gathering at the same place (usually at a Catholic church) to pray for peace. The Catholic praying to the true God, and members of false and heathen religions praying to their false gods.(text from an article published in Catholic Family News, April 2002, and reprinted with photos of the event at the website Tradition In Action)
You'd think you were immersed deep in the split-up of a Baptist or Christian church congregation.
I am informed Sikhs do the same thing, but they carry little knives and that makes the debate very nasty sometimes.
About all the RCs get to do is burn each other with candles ~
For the record, I thought it odd that the article used the word "pastor" so many times, not "priest" or "father", to refer to the head of St. Ann's. Am I wrong in thinking that "pastor" is a misuse?
I'm not denying they are Christians either, but that ceremony above looks quite odd and according to the article, there are some practices which are definitely not Christian. What is that woman doing who is elevating something in the air at the same time the priest is consecrating the bread and wine??? She's not even suppose to be on the altar at that time!
Sorry, but this kind of CRAP needs to be knocked off and knocked off FAST! All this does is bring scandal to the faith and causes disruption.
Just doing a quick search for the "official" RC definition and nowhere did I find that the priests and altar servers "stood" on the altar ~ and I see in the picture that there are other people standing in the area.
As far as holding something higher than the Host, I see what seems to be parts of an organ and at least one light that are "higher". The woman's hand seems to be holding something, but parallax probably distorts her hand's relative position.
Could be the priest is raising the host just as she and the other women sit down.
Still all looks terribly Christian to me although in my own church we've pretty well eliminated all the little ceremonial details lest we fall into the error of idolotry where we confound worship with following rules.
OH come on! You can definitely see her hands are raised up right at the same time the priest is consecrating. That's probably what the article referred to as the arati plate that was waved in circles.
Still all looks terribly Christian to me although in my own church we've pretty well eliminated all the little ceremonial details lest we fall into the error of idolotry where we confound worship with following rules.
Well, you know what happens when you don't have rules? All Hell breaks loose! Something obviously happened that wasn't quite right there to upset so many of the parishioners. I would think, that as a Catholic, you would know good and well that all concentration is suppose to be on the Eucharist during that part of the liturgy and not on some custom of India.
Read about the arati plate:
This has no business being conducted during a Catholic Mass.
Taking pleasure in another's misfortune is anything but Christian.
"They," unfortunately, would be heterodox RC clergy.
My bishop (Galeone) just excommunicated a priest here in FL for participating in a heterodox group; maybe they can clone his spine and send it out to other bishops throughout the US.
However, I don't see that they did the burnt offering, and that's the part that would clearly identify it as Hindu. In any case, the followers after St. Thomas do some things differently ~ I think everybody knows that.
Are you familiar with "Ma-Nu"? That's "Noah" if you didn't know. There's also the "Great Fish". Both play a part in fundamental Hindu theology and beliefs. Our Western religions share some roots with these guys, but without a linga at the mass, I'd have to say that what was going on was so far from your standard Hindu worship service as to not be legitimately Hindu.
Back to the lady with "whatever" in her hand ~ we'd have to go on site to see if we are being tricked by parallax. Maybe you can do that ~ see how high up you had to be to catch the other features at the angles shown here. I'm guessing a tall guy, or maybe someone standing in a pew took the picture.
Not taking any pleasure in it ~ just pointing out that it's a universal human failing to accuse the other guys of not being kosher.
om shakti, ping
Well, he can bring it on. The battle was over two thousand years ago and Jesus Christ won for all of us.
Christ has cast out the spirits that have possessed this world. What we are seeing now is merely the kicking and screaming of the last few swine as they go over the cliff.
all of the christian churches are under attack
Are you sure? If that were truly the case, it should be easy to answer post #13.
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