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To: wideawake

sounds exactly the same. While I don't agree with Catholic doctrine, I don't advocate dumping doctrinal differences just for the sake of 'unity.' People have to actually examine the differences and reject what they believe (scripturally) to be false, not just overlook things or refuse to deal with them.


17 posted on 09/05/2006 2:52:40 PM PDT by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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To: Terriergal
People have to actually examine the differences and reject what they believe (scripturally) to be false, not just overlook things or refuse to deal with them.

There are those on FR who will call this statement "blasphemy."

Just a heads-up.

18 posted on 09/05/2006 2:54:20 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: Terriergal
You don't agree with Catholic doctrine and I don't agree with Protestant doctrine.

It is useless to pretend they are the same or reconciliable. That's clear.

Warren quotes Catholics in his Purpose-Driven Life and many conservative Protestants take that as a sign that Warren is somehow "working for Rome."

In reality, Warren is working for himself and is trying to pull in as many paying customers as possible.

If a Catholic priest offered to pay for one of his seminars, he'd send a guy in right away, I'm sure. In fact, I guarantee that this has likely happened already.

What concerns me about Warren is that the main byproduct of his wholescale commoditization of Christ is that he is eroding what true doctrine is left among evangelicals.

A conservative Catholic will say: "Well, Protestants may be wrong about a lot of things - but the conservative ones at least believe in the Trinity, the Incarnation, the Atonement, Original Sin, the necessity of grace for salvation, the inerrancy of the Scriptures and other foundational Catholic teachings, so there is hope yet."

But I see an evangelicalism post-Warren in which the Trinity and Incarnation are hazily understood and not essential, where sin and atonement and grace are replaced by misunderstandings and apologies and self-actualization, where the Scriptures are replaced by The Message.

26 posted on 09/05/2006 3:07:25 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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