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Yom Kippur: Israel's Reconciliation
The B'rit Chadasha Pages | 9/29/06 | Michael D. Bugg

Posted on 09/29/2006 8:27:34 AM PDT by Buggman

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To: kerryusama04; topcat54; Buggman
What scripture do you cite that permits such a qualifying term?

That's a fallacious argument. Scripture may be the only infallible rule of faith and of life, but that doesn't mean that an argument requires a succint sound-byte citation to verify it. Topcat, being Reformed, subscribes to the "good-and-necessary-inference" rule.

281 posted on 10/18/2006 9:00:40 AM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: Buggman; Lord_Calvinus; Forest Keeper; topcat54

Usually it's good form to ping a FReeper when you quote them by name in a post as you did here.


282 posted on 10/18/2006 9:04:29 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: jude24; topcat54; HarleyD
Because they are the sacraments of an old, imperfect covenant which has vanished and passed away, along with its regulations for worship and earthly place of holiness (Heb. 8:13-9:1).

Amen.

"And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom." -- Mark 15:38

283 posted on 10/18/2006 9:09:17 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: jude24; topcat54
Because they are the sacraments of an old, imperfect covenant which has vanished and passed away, along with its regulations for worship and earthly place of holiness (Heb. 8:13-9:1).

Already answered a long time ago on multiple occasions, Jude. The New Covenant specifically includes this little proviso: "I will put My Torah in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts" (Jer. 31:33, Heb. 8:11).

"My Torah"--not another Torah, there is only one.

And because I grow weary of retyping the same arguments over and over again, I'll just point you to the article on my blog, Why the New Covenant Doesn’t Do Away with the Torah.

None of the Apostles, least of all Sha'ul, made the artificial distinction of the "moral law" and "ceremonial law." They only spoke of "the Law."

All of the arguments on this have been made at length on this thread; I think you're being a bit unfair trying to jump in with a soundbite response which doesn't take those arguments into account at all.

284 posted on 10/18/2006 9:13:22 AM PDT by Buggman (http://brit-chadasha.blogspot.com)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Lord_Calvinus; Forest Keeper; topcat54

You are absolutely correct, and it's something that I've called you down for before so that's particularly bad of me. I apologize for not doing so; I just didn't think to go back up and amend the ping list (usually the first thing I paste) when I quoted Forest Keeper and Lord_Calvinus.


285 posted on 10/18/2006 9:16:00 AM PDT by Buggman (http://brit-chadasha.blogspot.com)
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and it's something that I've called you down for before

LOL. I'm going to remember that line next time I make a mistake.

286 posted on 10/18/2006 9:29:00 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: jude24; topcat54; Buggman
That's a fallacious argument. Scripture may be the only infallible rule of faith and of life, but that doesn't mean that an argument requires a succint sound-byte citation to verify it. Topcat, being Reformed, subscribes to the "good-and-necessary-inference" rule.

fallacious
–adjective 1. containing a fallacy; logically unsound: fallacious arguments. 2. deceptive; misleading: fallacious testimony. 3. disappointing; delusive: a fallacious peace.

What definition are you using?

What is the "good-and-necessary-inference" rule?

My faith is grounded in scripture. New ideas cannot contradict scripture because, well that would contradict scripture. If TC can show me how he comes to his conclusions from scripture, that would level the playing field alot and perhaps show me the error of my ways.

287 posted on 10/18/2006 9:34:44 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I meant that as conciliatory, Ecks--since I've called you down for that, it's that much more incumbant that I not do the same. I was acknowledging a higher guilt, not trying to mitigate--my apologies if it seemed like the latter.


288 posted on 10/18/2006 10:38:29 AM PDT by Buggman (http://brit-chadasha.blogspot.com)
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Even if the Feasts were adiaphora, why wouldn't I want to celebrate and share them?.....Buggman

Because they are the sacraments of an old, imperfect covenant which has vanished and passed away, along with its regulations for worship and earthly place of holiness (Heb. 8:13-9:1)......jude24

How then do you feel about the second, third, and fourth generation disciples of the last living Apostles, John and Phillip, celebrating Passover well into the fourth century? Polycrates

Council of Antioch

289 posted on 10/18/2006 2:45:00 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Buggman

I'm sorry.....I forgot to ping you to my last post....also. You were quoted. #289


290 posted on 10/18/2006 3:00:07 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Buggman; Dr. Eckleburg; Lord_Calvinus; topcat54; P-Marlowe
I just didn't think to go back up and amend the ping list (usually the first thing I paste) when I quoted Forest Keeper and Lord_Calvinus.

Apology accepted (happens to everyone), and if you follow the conversation I'm still having with Marlowe about this, I defend against it being boasting. We are all defending positions we believe are right. I'm just giving credit to God for my position because I consider it part of my sanctification. You could do the same if you think your position came from Him. If I thought I came to my current understanding on my own, then it would be boasting. That's not what I'm saying.

Thanks for the alert, Dr. E. :)

291 posted on 10/18/2006 5:18:19 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (Vote NO on MO Amend. 2. Out-of-staters, come to St. Louis to make sure your vote counts!)
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To: Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; Lord_Calvinus; topcat54; P-Marlowe
That's fine, and I'll let you and Marlowe hash that out. I just wanted to point out to TC that this perception of arrogance thing goes both ways in the hopes that he'll stop trying to impute motives and get back to discussing Scripture.

God bless.

292 posted on 10/18/2006 6:45:08 PM PDT by Buggman (http://brit-chadasha.blogspot.com)
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