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To: Salvation

BTW, I'm not anti Universal Church of all those who Love The Lord Jesus . . .

I am against hierarchical organizations which end up doing the same thing the religious leaders of the most kosher RELIGIOUS organization of Jesus' dusty pathed days did to those who wanted a real realtionship with God.

The same problems in the Roman group abound in the Protestant groups. Human nature is the same in both camps and now as 2,000 years ago.

The Romans have not learned some secret about keeping organizations and their leaders humble servants to true relationships with God. It has appeared a number of decades and even centuries that actually, the Roman group was euqal to or worse than the RELIGIOUS organization and leaders ruling the roost in Jesus' earthly days.

I do NOT believe that Christ installed Peter as leader of anything.

But EVEN IF HE DID, the supposed successors have truly botched the operation big time multiple times to horrific results over and over and over.

The notion that God still rests His anointing on the Roman Group makes of God an idiot.

God is not that dumb, blind or helpless when He sees His priorities and His anointing trashed compared to His goals and standards.


14 posted on 10/27/2006 9:06:30 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

It what ways are things being "trashed" as you say by the Catholic Church?

In my way of thinking, it is the Catholic Church who as stood alone on many issues, among them:

The sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman
The holiness of the priesthood, (Yes, some have abused that office, but for the most, it is an extremely holy and honored sacrament.)
The stand against abortion
Against contraception and for Natural Family Planning
The stand against euthanasia
Against embryonic stem cell killing

Wouldn't you agree that the Catholic Church has stood faithfully and alone on these issues. Other faiths have chosed to join these ongoing fights at later dates.


20 posted on 10/27/2006 10:44:36 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Quix

Your post is full of so many logical fallacies and strawmen that I don't know where to start. But most specifically the argument that God must be an idiot to rely on the Roman model for anointing (and I'm not clear on whether you refer to the Roman Empire or the Roman Catholic Church when you say "Roman").


52 posted on 10/28/2006 7:52:54 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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