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To: Running On Empty; Lil Flower
Then I remembered the co-worker who quietly supported me in my work and treated me with respect. That person was instrumental in getting me interested in the Catholic Church.

2Co 11:6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.

2Co 10:10 For his letters, say they, are weighty and powerful; but his bodily presence is weak, and his speech contemptible.

Like the apostle Paul, I'm not worried about hurting anyone's feelings...My concern is not with the thickness of your skin, but your soul...

Like one preacher said, if you can't win 'em with love, SCARE the Hell out of 'em...

You don't like my attitude or tone of voice...Yet I speak Christ Crucified...I have confidence in the grace of Jesus Christ and you call it arrogance...And yet I speak of Jesus and lost souls and not of myself...

Your church claims that YOU can't know for certain if you are saved, until you die and go thru purgatory...

I say that if you don't know your salvation is secure, there's a good chance you aren't filled with the Holy Spirit...And if you aren't filled with the Spirit, you aren't saved...

I don't care about your church...Your multi-million dollar buildings and statues and pictures mean nothing to me, and God, I'm sure...That stuff isn't Christianity, it's religion...Fact is, Jesus says sell all that stuff and give it to the poor...

I realize a lot of people paint a picture of Jesus as a frail, weakling sissy type of God...He however showed some rage when he went thru the temple with the money changers...And I'll bet that when they place the crown of thorns on his head, had it not been for his destiny, he'd have cleaned out the entire room...

I realize you've been taught not to believe the bible in Revelation...It's allegorical, your church says...I know better than that...

In fact, I can't understand how a person who claims to be filled with the Holy Ghost could not know that Revelation is not allegorical...

Anyway, as the book says, Jesus is going to come back (with his church) and he's going to wield his sword and massacre millions...Their blood will run as deep as the bridles on horses...A river of blood...This ain't no weak kneed, sissy, lovey-dovey God we have here...Jesus will put his right arm around you while running thru the adversary with a sword in his left hand, at the same time...

I can't picture the Lord with blonde hair and blue eyes with limp wrists and a tenor voice...That's girly stuff...My Lord is a man's man...

622 posted on 11/05/2006 11:12:29 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

"like St. Paul , I'm not worried about hurting anyone's feelings"

Let's take just a few of examples from St. Paul's exhortations to his people:


"The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patient endurance, kindness, generosity, faith, mildness, and chastity. Against these there is no law."

"God chose us in Him before the world began, to be holy and blameless in His sight, to be full of love."

"Do nothing to sadden the Holy Spirit with whom you are sealed against the day of redemption. Get rid of all bitterness, all passion and anger, harsh words, slander and malice of every kind. In place of these, be kind to one another, compassionate and mutually forgiving, just as God has forgiven you in Christ."

"Live a life worthy of the calling you have received, with perfect humility, meekness and patience, bearing with one another lovingly."

"Be imitators of God as his dear children. Follow the way of love, even as Christ loved you."

Do Paul's words sound like a man presenting a "girley" Jesus? No, he sounds like an Apostle who saw the Lord and understood one thing--that God, Who is a God of love, saved him.

Does St. John present a "girley" Jesus when he writes--?
"God is love, and he who loves is in God and God in him."


629 posted on 11/05/2006 12:14:54 PM PST by Running On Empty
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To: Iscool

"Your church claims"---this is patently false.

"I don't care about your church"---if that's the truth, then don't concern yourself with it.

"I realize you've been taught not to read the bible in Revelation"------this is false. The Catholic church teaches that Revelation is anagogical, that it is also linked to the Book of Daniel, and that, like all Scripture is also understood from the moral perspective. That it contains some references as allegorical, especially those passages linked to the Book of Daniel, is not at all unfounded.

"I can't picture the Lord with blonde hair and blue eyes, with limp wrists and a tenor voice"-----I don't know where you came up with that.


630 posted on 11/05/2006 12:24:38 PM PST by Running On Empty
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To: Iscool

Your church claims that YOU can't know for certain if you are saved, until you die and go thru purgatory...

Apparently you have problem actually reading what I say. I never said you personally can't know of your salvation, I said you cannot judge another persons soul. You may know of your own salvation, but you cannot know mine, know matter how much you think you can.

And yet I speak of Jesus and lost souls and not of myself...

your opinion IS of yourself, and not of Christ. And as I recall you told me to post my personal testimony and YOU would give me your opinion as to whether or not it was real or not. You don't speak for Christ, you speak for Iscool. I am not interested in what Iscool thinks of my soul, I am only interested in what Christ thinks of my soul.Notice I have not called any of your beliefs false, nor have I questioned your salvation,nor have I judged you based on which church you choose to worship, I have only defended myself against you.

645 posted on 11/05/2006 5:50:43 PM PST by Lil Flower ("Without Love, deeds, even the most brilliant, count as nothing." St. Therese of Lisieux)
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To: Iscool
Your multi-million dollar buildings and statues and pictures mean nothing to me, and God, I'm sure...That stuff isn't Christianity, it's religion...Fact is, Jesus says sell all that stuff and give it to the poor...

Tell that to John Hagee, and Benny Hinn, and TBN, and Chuck Missler, and Rod Parsley and.......

649 posted on 11/05/2006 6:14:35 PM PST by Lil Flower ("Without Love, deeds, even the most brilliant, count as nothing." St. Therese of Lisieux)
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